1987 Charger GLHS #151, "Sunshine"

[domni058]

Hi, I live in plymouth ma. and i own a 86 omni glhs with a garage full of parts. I have a 525 trans that was rebuilt from Cliff Ramsdell in ct, with about 16,000 miles. it has a moly plate with a phantom posi and tran girdle pretty strong for a 525. i think it's an 87! i also have a mopar ported race head with big valves that was rebuilt! i'm only about one hour from you and i know alot about these cars, i have owned mine for 25 years! you can ask Bill Baker from the new england shelby dodge chapter he know me and my car. thanks Doug.

[phoebegoesvroom]

I do like the TU clutch offerings.

Yeah that's who I was looking at. I'm just not sure how much hp+torque I'm looking at with the motor build, so I figured I'd ask you guys for suggestions. I'm guessing one of the Stage I or Stage II clutches will do it.

I would probably stick with the stock injectors and fuel pressure regulator if you're just going to be at 14PSI or less. I was able to cruise around and have a great time with the GLHS stg. II LM and big injectors, but it left a lot to be desired vs. a cal that I've done myself.

As far as what? Did it negatively affect the drivability? This car will be my daily driver, so street performance is important to me. I'm not opposed to changing the LM either. I don't even know for sure that it's a GLHS Stage 2 computer just yet...that's just what the PO said. I still have to check it out to verify if that's really true or not.

Thanks for the advice!

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Hi, I live in plymouth ma. and i own a 86 omni glhs with a garage full of parts. I have a 525 trans that was rebuilt from Cliff Ramsdell in ct, with about 16,000 miles. it has a moly plate with a phantom posi and tran girdle pretty strong for a 525. i think it's an 87! i also have a mopar ported race head with big valves that was rebuilt! i'm only about one hour from you and i know alot about these cars, i have owned mine for 25 years! you can ask Bill Baker from the new england shelby dodge chapter he know me and my car. thanks Doug.

Hey there, good to meet another TD owner that's local =)

My car already has an A555 in it, so I wouldn't really want to switch it back to a 525. Otherwise, I would be interested in that tranny for sure, especially with the phantom limited slip.

I may be interested in that head, though. PM me and we can talk about it!

[cordes]

Yeah that's who I was looking at. I'm just not sure how much hp+torque I'm looking at with the motor build, so I figured I'd ask you guys for suggestions. I'm guessing one of the Stage I or Stage II clutches will do it.



As far as what? Did it negatively affect the drivability? This car will be my daily driver, so street performance is important to me. I'm not opposed to changing the LM either. I don't even know for sure that it's a GLHS Stage 2 computer just yet...that's just what the PO said. I still have to check it out to verify if that's really true or not.

It didn't get anywhere near the gas mileage which my custom cals get. If you really get yours dialed in with the +20s it won't be too bad, but I would think you could still pick up 3mpgs pretty easily. I personally feel that the drivability is better with a custom cal too. You can tailor it more to your needs.

[supercrackerbox]

The chip I have in my Charger isn't exactly fine tuned, and I average about 30mpg highway with a best of 34.1 on the way back from SDAC last year.

[phoebegoesvroom]

The chip I have in my Charger isn't exactly fine tuned, and I average about 30mpg highway with a best of 34.1 on the way back from SDAC last year.

That's better mileage than my Focus gets. Is there a thread for your SC? I'd like to see how you've got it set up.

[cordes]

The chip I have in my Charger isn't exactly fine tuned, and I average about 30mpg highway with a best of 34.1 on the way back from SDAC last year.

That's much better than what I did with my stg. II cal and larger injectors. Around town my mileage was horrible, but it wasn't the worst on the freeway.

[supercrackerbox]

Yeah, I have a thread somewhere; I don't think it ever got moved to the new project logs section. Basically it's a TII conversion with a 2-piece intake, ebay FMIC, ported head, ported exhaust manifold, Super 60 turbo with a .63 A/R hot side, full 3" exhaust, +40 injectors, 3 bar MAP, 555 trans and 16" wheels with 24" OD tires. It's actually pretty disappointing performance-wise. Last I knew, it was set at about 17 psi, but my boost gauge broke on the rally at SDAC, and I haven't cared enough to replace it.

[phoebegoesvroom]

Yeah, I have a thread somewhere; I don't think it ever got moved to the new project logs section. Basically it's a TII conversion with a 2-piece intake, ebay FMIC, ported head, ported exhaust manifold, Super 60 turbo with a .63 A/R hot side, full 3" exhaust, +40 injectors, 3 bar MAP, 555 trans and 16" wheels with 24" OD tires. It's actually pretty disappointing performance-wise. Last I knew, it was set at about 17 psi, but my boost gauge broke on the rally at SDAC, and I haven't cared enough to replace it.

Hmm...I mean that sounds like a hot ticket to me, on paper at least. Have you had it dyno'd?

[supercrackerbox]

It dynoed at 214 on a Mustang dyno, but that was with leaking oil into #3 and the soon-to-be-cracked cylinder head. The new cylinder head completely changed the car's personality, especially above 3200 RPM, but I haven't gotten it back on the dyno since then. It burns oil and the clutch is slipping, so there's not much point now.

[phoebegoesvroom]

Last night I pulled the fan, radiator and intercooler, alternator and power steering pump, then stopped for the night because my back was killing me from being hunched over for so long. Anyway, there's not much left that I need to do in order to get the motor out:



Also, out of curiosity I checked the S/N on the block. Unsurprisingly, it's not even close to the car's VIN:


It's also been painted heavily with brush, like some other things on this car.

[phoebegoesvroom]

Question for you guys: is there a big bus connector on the passenger side in the interior for the wiring harness, like there is on the firewall on the driver's side? I ask because I'm removing the harness from the engine compartment so I can make the repairs it needs (which are many), and it would be easiest for me to remove the harness from the car to do it...plus it will be out of the way so I can paint. I have it all freed up except for where it goes into the firewall on the passenger side. I figured I'd ask first before I started pulling things apart inside the car. Thanks!

[BadAssPerformance]

For the 84-87 "Logic Module" cars there is a big rubber grommet on the pass side behind the strut tower. To find it, follow the wire loom that crosses under the cowl seal and over to the pass side strut and look for the grommet behind the PS pump. On teh inside, remove teh side sill/kickpanel cover to access the LM and follow the wires up to the grommet. Not 100% on the l-bodies but the othe rbodies have a plastic key piece (like a shift cable clip but a couple inches wide & tall)that you need to pull out of the grommet on the inside, then the grommet comes right out and you can feed the LM connectors thru the firewall into the engine bay...

[phoebegoesvroom]

Awesome, that's exactly what I was hoping someone would say! I'm tempted to go back and do it now, but I'm done for the day. Thanks a bunch!

[BadAssPerformance]

No problem, good luck!

[phoebegoesvroom]

Thanks, I'm gonna need it. I'm very good with wiring, but some of these connectors are pretty fubar. Don't even get me started on the POs' "repairs"...

[BadAssPerformance]

LOL... yeah, if I had a nickel for every butt connector I've seen hacked onto a wiring harness... when I got the Z, a PO (or stereo shop?) had a couple dozen instead of the correct radio connecotr harness!

[phoebegoesvroom]

Stuff like that really irks me. I've had plenty of "why would someone even do this?" moments while working on the car so far.

Anyway, I'm probably going to replace some of the stock connectors with more modern ones if I can't get replacement pigtails for them. I have a few connectors that have frayed wires or completely severed wires, among other things.

[minigts]

Here are some part numbers for terminals you can get from Terminal Supply. I'm sure there are tons of companies out there that sell them, but TSC is where I get my stuff usually.

• 3843386-18
• 3843386-18
• AU-16349
• 3843386-14
• 3843607
• 3843607
• AU-16801
• 7368261
• 4368163
• 4304729
• 4304729

[phoebegoesvroom]

Thanks so much, John. That will be a huge help!

[RoadWarrior222]

Anyway, I'm probably going to replace some of the stock connectors with more modern ones if I can't get replacement pigtails for them. I have a few connectors that have frayed wires or completely severed wires, among other things.

With this old wiring, check under the wrap anywhere there's a chance of chafe or kink, in the regular tight bends even, it cracks up and rubs through under there and turns into green brittle crap, that oddly enough doesn't conduct current too well... some survived well, some need a patch or two, some you might wanna think about a replacement harness.