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    Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Are 11's possible on a Super60 turbo, 8 valve and no NOS?

    Reason I'm asking, I just broke 13's at just under 14 lbs of boost. If I kick things up a notch to say.....22 psi do you think I can hit my target of 11's?

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    I would say yes it is definitely possible as there are several of us that have run 12's on stock Garrett's behind stock long blocks

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Absolutely possible. Plenty of mid 12 second cars on stock turbos as JT said. I've run shake down low boost passes on less than a S60 in the Aries in the 12.2's. I'm sure I can get way into the 11's with it on moderate boost.

    For someone who has done it, Jon Genesky ran a S60 in a CSXT to 11.7's.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    I'd agree, hell yeah.
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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    my glh is in the mid 11s with a super 60.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    What was your trap speed?

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    60 1.7x
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    1320 ive bested at 11.9 @ 113. averaged between 112.8-114.9 (havent hit the 115 mark!) I have improved since then and should be at 11.5-11.6, but no slip for the 1/4 just 1/8th mile stuff. all at 22 psi.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Absolutely possible. Plenty of mid 12 second cars on stock turbos as JT said. I've run shake down low boost passes on less than a S60 in the Aries in the 12.2's. I'm sure I can get way into the 11's with it on moderate boost.

    For someone who has done it, Jon Genesky ran a S60 in a CSXT to 11.7's.
    Do you know if Jon's car was a 2.2 or 2.5?

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Jon's car was a 2.2 about I believe it trapped 115ish to get there.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveSkrab View Post
    Jon's car was a 2.2 about I believe it trapped 115ish to get there.
    Yep, 2.2/g head and I recall 115 also. He ran that turbo with "all of it" boost.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Yep, 2.2/g head and I recall 115 also. He ran that turbo with "all of it" boost.
    If I had to guess that's about 330 hp wheels / 380 crank HP with a super60

    It looks like I'll need about 320 wheel hp to get into the 11's and right now I'm just guessing I'm somewhere around 250- 260 so I'll need 60-70 more HP..... I'm calling my tuner right now, lol.

    Just guessing as all setups are different, but is it about 8hp for every 1lb of boost? If so, that will put me at about 22 psi. Does that sound about right?
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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    It is not linear, due to diminishing returns as it gets hotter and flow gets choked somewhere...

    FWIW my Shadow went 12.88 @ 104.5 on 19psi stock Garrett 2.25" outlet

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    [QUOTE=168glhs1986;868272]If I had to guess that's about 330 hp wheels / 380 crank HP with a super60

    It looks like I'll need about 320 wheel hp to get into the 11's a



    My black shadow made 330whp and went 1220s at 116mph. Full interior car. Jons car was a bit stripped if i recall. Although super 60 turbo, it made 285whp 334tq id figure your car and jons are about the same weight. You dont need 300whp to break 11s.....
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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    my full weight glh went 12.41 on 22-23 lbs and a stock top end with super 60. that was at 280hp and 412 tq (hello 2.5)

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    bring back from the dead.
    so you guys think that 115mph trap speed is the limit on a super 60 turbo and about 21-23psi of boost?

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Quote Originally Posted by roachjuice View Post
    bring back from the dead.
    so you guys think that 115mph trap speed is the limit on a super 60 turbo and about 21-23psi of boost?
    Depends on the car's weight. Last fall, I went 115 on way less than 21 psi (maybe 17-18? Don't remember) with the 60trim, which has a smaller inducer than the S60, but it's a light car. In autox mode with the heavy 9" and 10" steel wheels, it weighs 2305 without me in it.

    I may have it out at Cecil this fall in my quest to dip the car into the 10's. If so, I'll hammer a couple of runs on just boost and see what I can get out of it.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Depends on the car's weight. Last fall, I went 115 on way less than 21 psi (maybe 17-18? Don't remember) with the 60trim, which has a smaller inducer than the S60, but it's a light car. In autox mode with the heavy 9" and 10" steel wheels, it weighs 2305 without me in it.

    I may have it out at Cecil this fall in my quest to dip the car into the 10's. If so, I'll hammer a couple of runs on just boost and see what I can get out of it.
    oh yea. this car is stripped to bare bones except dash, seats and a cage lol. see you have a ported head too right? im running a super 60 turbo right now on 20psi with a stock 2 piece intake and a ported exhaust manifold. +40's and a full 3in exhaust including swingvalve. pretty big intercooler (large npr). i wanna say this head is stock but with a taft stage 2 cam and pt lifters and some beehive springs. i would imagine that a ported head would make a ton of difference. just kinda wondering where the s60 turbo taps out of power.

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    im not saying ill trap 115. just wondering really what kind of power its good for.

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Pat, given your mph and that weight you're roughly 280-310whp. according to online calculators. thats not bad!

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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    You also have to take charge air temp into consideration. A good intercooler is a must with a turbo running at the high end of it's island.
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    Re: Anyone in the 11's on a super 60 turbo?

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    You also have to take charge air temp into consideration. A good intercooler is a must with a turbo running at the high end of it's island.
    exactly. and i really dont know how well the npr works lol. it seems to be alright.

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