tubular header for T1

[errol]

hello again ppl.Is there someone in the mids of this forum that actually make a tubular header for our cars!!?

[turbovanman²]

Bug "badassperformance", tell him to get his azz into gear, "2point2" can make you one, as well as "lonewolfperformance.com"

[BadAssPerformance]

Moved the thread to "exhaust" section.

A couple prototypes have been made and tested. The bottom one in the pic is the original thin wall mild steel prototype that used to be on my Z when it was a 2.2L. It survived pretty well for being on the car from '02-'06. The top one in the pic is a thick wall SS prototype that was tested this year on a 2.5L Shelby Charger.

I had planned to do a "group buy" on the SS ones once tested, but wasn't sure there was interest since ported stockers run 10's...

[30 PSI SHADOW]

yeah, maybe with 35+ psi of boost. regardless, let us know about the testing...

[86seeS]

How did the header fit in an L-body?

[Shadow]

Test results from this year on the S/C? What size ID is the thick walled SS?

[turbovanman²]

I had planned to do a "group buy" on the SS ones once tested, but wasn't sure there was interest since ported stockers run 10's...

For the 100th time, quit testing and make the damn things,

[BadAssPerformance]

How did the header fit in an L-body?

It fit great on a car without power steering and with a custom downpipe. the only issue was I had to modify runner #2 to get mounting stud clearance.

Test results from this year on the S/C? What size ID is the thick walled SS?

So far so good, no issues with warpage, leakage or anything noted, but have not taken it off for analysis yet. It's been a while, I'd have to dig to find the size. There was only one standard size that was large enough for the port area and small enough to fit the bolts past.

For the 100th time, quit testing and make the damn things,

Sorry, just trying to make sure stuff works...

[turbovanman²]

Sorry, just trying to make sure stuff works...

4 years? Even the OEM's don't test for that long,

[shmedley]

4 years? Even the OEM's don't test for that long,

It was just put on a L body at the begining of the year.
It's not like he is taking as long as you are to get 22shelby his wires that he won in your give away last year

[BadAssPerformance]

nice... OEM's have a bunch more resources too

As far as testing... the SS header was test fit 2 years ago on L-body and P-body with power steering a couple years ago, but it was only put on a car this year, so it really doesn't have much time on it. Hindsight being 20/20 I should have put it on the Shadow and daily drove it all year instead of a car which doesnt see much street use. Maybe I'll do that for 2012?

Really, I would like this thing to be bullet proof before making more, but maybe those who want a group buy dont care about stuff? Stuff like....

Is anyone gonna complain if they buy it and it doesn't fit their car and have to do custom mods to make it fit?

Is anyone gonna complain if they have to make their own custom downpipe?

Is anyone gonna complain if a weld cracks?

Is anyone gonna complain if a flange warps?

[turbovanman²]

It was just put on a L body at the begining of the year.
It's not like he is taking as long as you are to get 22shelby his wires that he won in your give away last year

I sent them out, sorry he didn't get them, everyone else did, I asked for his address again and didn't get it, so its my fault? Attitudes like this and probably why I won't do it again this year.

Edit, IIRC, Blackglhs paid the shipping so I'll send the shipping money back, or if you/he did, post up the paypal addy and I'll refund the money. Damn, my bad. Wonder why some people won't do shitt like this.

nice... OEM's have a bunch more resources too

As far as testing... the SS header was test fit 2 years ago on L-body and P-body with power steering a couple years ago, but it was only put on a car this year, so it really doesn't have much time on it. Hindsight being 20/20 I should have put it on the Shadow and daily drove it all year instead of a car which doesnt see much street use. Maybe I'll do that for 2012?

Really, I would like this thing to be bullet proof before making more, but maybe those who want a group buy dont care about stuff? Stuff like....

Is anyone gonna complain if they buy it and it doesn't fit their car and have to do custom mods to make it fit?

Is anyone gonna complain if they have to make their own custom downpipe?

Is anyone gonna complain if a weld cracks?

Is anyone gonna complain if a flange warps?

LOL, yeah, I know, just buggin ya but you do have that option, Option A is it looks like it works, buy it at own risk or Option B, wait another 4 years,

[4 l-bodies]

JRB exhaust had a stainless tubular one made probably ten years ago or more. It was designed to fit exactly where log manifold turbo flange ended up, so it was truly a bolt on install. Unfortunately it warped real bad. He had it straightened by same fab shop that made it and he sold it to Jay on this forum. My understanding is it warped on Jay too.
I've got a bunch of pics of it but would have to scan them, as this was long before digital cameras were the norm.
I know my TBI header that I had made up (flame spray welded) and heavily ported, works very well. I had it flow benched by same guy that flowbenched 16V masi, modified ported masi, stock log, ported log, and TU's cast log manifold.
My TBI header is now going on other car along with ATP's V-band swingvalve, so it should work even better.
Todd

[4 l-bodies]

There have actually been several one off tubular headers built. Even DC made a prototype that was supposed to make production, but never did. Some on cars currently, some that have come and gone, some that will surface this next year. I have some pics of one being built that looks very well designed. I won't post pics as this is owners decision not mine. But it was designed and built by a very respected TM guy.
Todd

[turbovanman²]

There have actually been several one off tubular headers built. Even DC made a prototype that was supposed to make production, but never did. Some on cars currently, some that have come and gone, some that will surface this next year. I have some pics of one being built that looks very well designed. I won't post pics as this is owners decision not mine. But it was designed and built by a very respected TM guy.
Todd

Aaron M?

[4 l-bodies]

Aaron M?

Nope, but good guess. Quality is in same league as Warren's header.

[turbovanman²]

Nope, but good guess. Quality is in same league as Warren's header.

LOL, all I know with that quality are Warren, Aaron or it could be Brian Slowe.

[Shadow]

LOL, all I know with that quality are Warren, Aaron or it could be Brian Slowe.

Keep guessing, but go back even further, I think I know which header Todd is talking about.

[turbovanman²]

Keep guessing, but go back even further, I think I know which header Todd is talking about.

I'm out, that's all I know, lol.

[Shadow]

nice... OEM's have a bunch more resources too

As far as testing... the SS header was test fit 2 years ago on L-body and P-body with power steering a couple years ago, but it was only put on a car this year, so it really doesn't have much time on it. Hindsight being 20/20 I should have put it on the Shadow and daily drove it all year instead of a car which doesnt see much street use. Maybe I'll do that for 2012?

Really, I would like this thing to be bullet proof before making more, but maybe those who want a group buy dont care about stuff? Stuff like....

Is anyone gonna complain if they buy it and it doesn't fit their car and have to do custom mods to make it fit?

Is anyone gonna complain if they have to make their own custom downpipe?

Is anyone gonna complain if a weld cracks?

Is anyone gonna complain if a flange warps?

I heard that! There are those that will put something to market to make $'s and too bad if anything goes wrong, and there are those who care about what their name is attached to and will do the best they can to try and make sure that everything is worked out first.

Good on you that you belong to the second group!