Too hybrid, or not too hybrid is the question

[trannybuster]

I already have custom plenum(2.2), 70mm tb, ported head, larger valves and t3 cam, npr intercooler would the benefit be that great or should I just stick with current 8v setup? Ive got an entire short block and new forged piston on shelf. I already know about all the work that needs to be done, Id just like to know how much better it truly is from those that are running the hybrid now.

[turbovanman²]

Do it,

[roachjuice]

8 valves are bad ---.

[Shadow]

He's right, 8v's are Real Bad!

[roachjuice]

Bad a$$ lol

[Vigo]

I would stick with the 8v. There have been 8v's over 500hp so unless you are shooting for the moon i would keep trying to improve/optimize what you have. In the end it's more educational and more of an accomplishment than bolting on a 16v head. just my .02

[rx2mazda]

its "To hybrid, or not to hybrid" not Too.

Grammer police.

[Vigo]

It's grammar, not grammer.

Spelling police.

[tryingbe]

Depends on what your goal is.

[turbovanman²]

It's grammar, not grammer.

Spelling police.

BURN LMAO

[trannybuster]

OR Too hybird, or not to hybrid...lol....Ive got time to mull it over so no rush. First order of buisness is getting fender flares on for wider rubber, stock rubber width isnt nearly enough.I tried drag radials, but shouldnt had even bothered, even with the obx first and second gears seem useless without slicks....

[turbovanman²]

We keep having this discussion, lol, its slicks or don't bother,

[roachjuice]

We keep having this discussion, lol, its slicks or don't bother,

You guys need to step up your game. Bias ply tires is where it's at.

[Vigo]

A lot of slicks are bias ply..

[cordes]

It's grammar, not grammer.

Spelling police.

its "To hybrid, or not to hybrid" not Too.

Grammer police.

A lot of slicks are bias ply..

You guys beat me to it all over the place. Nice work.

[trannybuster]

Ahh such usefull posts in this thread...bastages...lol...so is it that much 'better' than 8v? Suppose Ill need to see some dyno numbers.

[roachjuice]

A lot of slicks are bias ply..

I ment like old school stock tires bias ply... Not slick bias ply...

[turbovanman²]

Ahh such usefull posts in this thread...bastages...lol...so is it that much 'better' than 8v? Suppose Ill need to see some dyno numbers.

Ok, 16 valve's are easier to make power over an 8 valve, but the complexity for some outweigh the advantages.

Shadow has a 500 whp 8 valve running an HE351 and aprox 35 psi, turboshad uses a 2.4 setup with the same turbo and puts out the same power at 25 ish psi. Both are done up but Shadow's has alot more time, money and R@D into it, also turboshad's car is heavier than Shadow's SC.

Good 8 valve heads are getting harder to find, 2.0/2.4 stuff is easy to find.

[Vigo]

I guess it just depends on if you'd rather be near the top of the 8 valve heap, or in the lower-to-middle part of the 16v heap.

It is easier to make power with the 16v, but the inverse of that is it is less of an accomplishment. I still remember how 8valves (username) made ~407whp @ only 23psi on pump 93 with an 8v. To me that is WAY more impressive than the handful of people here who have made 400+whp on the 16v head.

[trannybuster]

I like the idea of less boost, that translates to lower octane, period. The 16valve must be that much more efficient. I have also heard of ppl getting better mpg...? However I did read no real gain by BadassPerf, that he didnt gain hardly anything going to 16v? Didnt see where he mentioned boost psi..