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    3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    Im going to use this thread to post updates of our progress at drag week in a few days! I have my moms cannon camera and as far as i know its decent enough to get some videos of Ed's shadow screaming down the track

    What do you guys think the car will run on ave?

    heres a mod list (if i can remember them all correctly)

    MS II
    Custom twin plenums
    dual 80mm Throttle Bodys
    Powered Heads
    Crower Regrinds
    Light flywheel (not alum)
    Custom Half header
    3inch exhaust
    no major weight reduction
    street tires
    a543 trans
    VE table seeing values as high as 104 ! !

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    17.5 :P

    Just ball busting - I hope this thing runs fantastic for you guys, and blows the expectations of some onlookers right out of the water! Represent the NA Pbodies!

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    I'll say high 13's, low 14's.

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    Well I don't know that Ed has a lot of passes under his belt and not sure about the tune.

    I would think the trap speed would be very good if the tune was on. 100mph capable.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    we made it to Topeka ks!!! but not without issues

    lots of rain, TPS sensor went out momentarily on the truck, we forgot a laptop and we dont have the cable for my camera to upload pictures. Not to worry, we used my laptop and confirmed that it works with Ed's megasquirt and the car is running great. we also fixed (so we think) the wideband issue by updating the firmware (LC -1 2.0 beta firmware, you need to do a bit of looking to find it)

    tomorrow im going to try and buy a usb cable for the camera so i can get you guys some good picture and videos!

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    Yeh, pictures are important. Good luck out there!

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    Good to hear.

    What does the LC1 update do? Link?
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
    1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
    2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
    2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.

    Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    i meant lc 1 firmware 1.20! not 2.0

    it fixed the gauge from dropping out and giving us a huge rich spike

    pics in a second.. ill have more as days go on.

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    www.photobucket.com/dragweek6g72 is the url pics are being uploaded to as we speak

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Sundance 6g72 View Post
    i meant lc 1 firmware 1.20! not 2.0

    it fixed the gauge from dropping out and giving us a huge rich spike

    pics in a second.. ill have more as days go on.
    So is that old firmware? or brand new release?
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
    1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
    2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
    2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.

    Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info

    Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info

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    Saw those on facebook. Ed is non longer flying under the radar.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    I like the front half header.

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    So what is he running?

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    Re: 3.0 + Drag Week + pictures and updates :D

    all the runs are no good. should be low 14s easily but without slicks its tough. every run got better though. we went from a 16 to a 15.3...... car did make 170hp to the wheels (i made 147 and 15.3 is where i should be!) but not sure if slicks are needed

    i know the record is at 14.2 but that is with less mods plus he had slicks. car is running 90mph though. i think the best 60' was 2.2 it was much worse.


    right now we have an issue though. seems like the car runs VERY lean and starts bucking (afr goes from 18:1 - 21:1) and then it dies. this happend twice in hot temperatures and a long drive. we havnt had it happen sense though... we need help making sense of the data log.

    shouldnt be to hard to find where the issue happens.... it goes lean and stays lean. the lean spikes earlier in the log might be when the throttle is lifted. when it goes super lean we kind of jumped on and off the gas so that will explain the tps going up and down. not sure if its fuel or ign related and its hard to tell when he problem just disappears..

    if someone could take a look and give some input!

    http://www.gamefront.com/files/20771183/very+lean.msl

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    Do you have a fuel pressure gauge with you? Worst case, somebody out of that whole bunch of racers probably does. I have had multiple instances of the pump strainer pulling enough silty debris up against it to choke the pump and become a lean problem. When the car sits, some of it falls back off, and then when driving again it sucks it back up. The same thing can happen with oil pickups and trans filters in motors and trannies.

    Just an idea.

    I dont know how to view the log.

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    Sounds like you had fun, too bad it didn't run as planned. Do they ever?
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    Confused. Is this happening when racing or when cruising around.

    90mph is not good.
    I did 88 on an almost stock 3.0 with a604, ported plenum and spacers, exhaust cut off after cat, 52mm tb and CAI and new magnacore wires. That was only a 15.48 E.T., so if you went 15.3 on a manual trans that is harder to ET vs MPH, then something is going wrong.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    we have a fuel pressure gauge but it reads fine.. the question is, does it read fine when the problem comes back

    every race went fine.. just slower than it should be. It only happend twice and that was when cruising and when we had it idle it still was crazy lean and then died. its hard to make the problem come back though...

    we are looking into the fuel pump and fuel filter.

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    tell ED to stop running 31 degrees. Run 40 or more degrees total. He already proved on the dyno that an OEM style 3.0 makes more power when you go from 38 degrees to 41 degrees (+3 degrees base). Now, why is he running 10 degrees less. My cars are always turds when I do that. He is so far down on power.
    He needs 12.5-13.0:1 AFR and lots of timing.

    One thing I have never had trouble with is running fast when I want to, even when I bring a knife to a gun fight.
    One question I have is what gear are you guys ending in. If you rev to 7000 you don't need 4th gear. Are you short shifting and killing power, or running out of power in 3rd...I am thinking you need 4th because I bet you have tiny 50 series tires on there also.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    I see AFRs in that log mostly range from 16-20:1. Seems very strange. I'm wondering if your info from the wideband is wrong.

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