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    Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    As the title suggests, I deleted the accumulator and did the line pressure mod.

    I completely loosened the adjustment screw and the case is drilled for access.

    Where do I read the line pressure from and what's a good starting pressure ??

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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    If you drilled the vb for the line pressure mod, then simply adjust the line pressure to suit.

    I'll look it up when I get to work.
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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    when you post that, post the manual VB mods that you were supposed to post ages ago so i can use them on my neon.

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman
    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dohc Rocks View Post
    As the title suggests, I deleted the accumulator and did the line pressure mod.

    I completely loosened the adjustment screw and the case is drilled for access.

    Where do I read the line pressure from and what's a good starting pressure ??
    Theres nothin worst than to do something only to relize

    you have another problem,do yourself a favor and put

    the accumulator back in(remove any plugs you have installed to block passages)

    semi measure the distance between accumulator piston and accumulator cover

    and make a solid spacer in place of spring,this will prevent piston movement=

    drill out case plug hole(eliminate odd ball threads)tap to 1/8"

    pipe,install a guage or plug,now you have a point to properly

    check your trans pressures.set pressure @ 90-100 psi as starting point

    Heres one I made from collapsible pinion spacers
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    Hope this answers your Q

    Richard=

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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dohc Rocks View Post
    As the title suggests, I deleted the accumulator and did the line pressure mod.

    I completely loosened the adjustment screw and the case is drilled for access.

    Where do I read the line pressure from and what's a good starting pressure ??
    I ran into that problem too when I first plugged the case for the accumulator. When I pulled my valve body the second time to build a shift kit, I left the accumulator piston in and only plugged the case where the accumulator allows fluid out. The line pressure port stays active so you can take a reading with a gauge.

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    If you drilled the vb for the line pressure mod, then simply adjust the line pressure to suit.

    I'll look it up when I get to work.
    As far as drilling the valve body to up the line pressure, drill it so the fluid sprays towards the back of the transmission. If you drill it center so the fluid bleed squirts the fluid straight up, it splashes in the dipstick and makes it hard to read. I drilled a .042" hole and my base fluid pressure started at 75 p.s.i.

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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    I ran into that problem too when I first plugged the case for the accumulator. When I pulled my valve body the second time to build a shift kit, I left the accumulator piston in and only plugged the case where the accumulator allows fluid out. The line pressure port stays active so you can take a reading with a gauge.

    As far as drilling the valve body to up the line pressure, drill it so the fluid sprays towards the back of the transmission. If you drill it center so the fluid bleed squirts the fluid straight up, it splashes in the dipstick and makes it hard to read.
    Ohhhhh, that's why mine is a b!tch now...

    So you're saying you only need one of the two holes plugged, and it will still disable the accumulator and still read line pressure?

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    Edit: Ima thinking I'll screw a deflector tab over it next time I'm in there.
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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Why would you go to the hassle of making a dummy accumulator? What a waste of time and energy.

    As for checking the pressure, use the port next to the return fitting for the cooler, read in 2nd gear. No need to get fancy and block other stuff off or make fancy dummy plugs,

    Good tip on the valve body bleed A.J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    when you post that, post the manual VB mods that you were supposed to post ages ago so i can use them on my neon.
    Yeah, yeah, lol. Got a fax?

    I still have to make a KC article on all this, sigh.
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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Interesting to see the various ways folks go to get a similar outcome... Seems like both ways will work to good effect.

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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Yeah, yeah, lol. Got a fax?

    I still have to make a KC article on all this, sigh.
    just take a good, in-focus pic of it with a digital camera and post it up. or scan it.

    brian

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman
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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Well I went through the ATRA book and it says you can pull line pressure through pretty much any port depending on the gear the trans is actually in.

    I checked in the low-reverse port in manual first and at 1000 rpm and the kickdown fully relaxed I have 105 psi and with the kickdown cranked it rises to 135 psi.

    All I can say is that the trans is working great - except for the 'billet' lock up that bit the bullet already.... it kicks in but can't hold anything more that the lightest cruise.

    I bet the piston they used is a stocker and it deformed with the higher pressure.

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    Re: Where to read line pressure when you delete the accumulator ?????????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dohc Rocks View Post

    All I can say is that the trans is working great - except for the 'billet' lock up that bit the bullet already.... it kicks in but can't hold anything more that the lightest cruise.

    I bet the piston they used is a stocker and it deformed with the higher pressure.
    Sorry to hear that, so far, mine has taken some good boosting and still holding.
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