Losing coolant from timing belt side :(

[turbovanman²]

You can use a standard 2 or 3 jaw-type puller instead of a bolt type puller like suggested to remove the harmonic balancer... that's if you have one.

I wouldn't recommend that, you can pull the outer ring clean off then you'll be buying a new damper,

[Sundance 6g72]

right now all im worried about is getting the damn wheel off

[zin]

so when i finished the clutch job, i went for a pee break while a friend of mine put my wheels on. He impacted them on... and now i cant get the last lug off. thats just awesome.. any socket i take to it eventually slips off with either an impact or a breaker bar. i am soooooooo FREAKING pissed

Might just need to over-tighten it and snap it off, then replace that stud, actually maybe all of them if they've been over-torqued... Don't want the wheels literally falling off (been there done that! No fun!).

Mike

[bond_bbs]

I wouldn't recommend that, you can pull the outer ring clean off then you'll be buying a new damper,

Providing you use a bit of penetrating oil and tap the steal ring with a hammer lightly to break it loose, it comes off quite nicely. That has always been my method and never once done any damage to them.

I guess if you just jammed the puller on and started cranking or took an air ratchet / impact to it, you could do some serious damage.

[Sundance 6g72]

Might just need to over-tighten it and snap it off, then replace that stud, actually maybe all of them if they've been over-torqued... Don't want the wheels literally falling off (been there done that! No fun!).

Mike

i dont want to overtighten.. ive seen impacts go through a RIM!!!! no joke.

[zin]

Guess it comes down to the least expensive method of getting the job done. If it was an inexpensive /common wheel, I'd probably sacrifice the wheel, but if those special sockets are cheap enough just use one of them, just don't expect you'll get more than one use out of it when you figure total costs.

Good Luck!

Mike

[Ondonti]

Not hard to replace the stud if you break it.

[RoadWarrior222]

Use fire, lots of fire.... an insurance claim's worth

[bond_bbs]

Use fire, lots of fire.... an insurance claim's worth

At least that will dry up any leaks he may have!

[Sundance 6g72]

i dont care about replacing the stud... im worried about over tightening and going through the wheel. I like the factory wheels.

i dont even think i could overtighten if i wanted too. The lug is morel like a nut and i can see that its not on the stud's threads correctly

[c2xejk]

The options I see. One, take a slightly undersized socket (sacrifical, possibly SAE) and hammer it onto the lug nut. Two, there are special sockets with a left-hand twist so they drive on tighter as you try and loosen the lug nut. Three, if you have room around the lug nut use a die grinder or dremel to cut a groove one one side of the lug nut to release the tension on the nut. Four, drill out the stud.

Good Luck.
Ed Kelly - www.kmperformance.com

[Sundance 6g72]

i dont care about replacing the stud... im worried about over tightening and going through the wheel.&nbsp; I like the factory wheels.&nbsp; <br><br>i dont even think i could overtighten if i wanted too.&nbsp; The lug is morel like a nut and i can see that its not on the stud's threads correctly

ive been trying the hammer. I need a to get a better hammer.. my current one is a little guy. next option is the wimpy mallet

the thing is, the nut is angled. once i get on it with a socket, it eventually slips. i might have to cut it

[bond_bbs]

A trick that nobody has mentioned that comes in handy for really jammed stuff - take a blowtorch, light it, and (not using the cutting blast, just the flame!) heat the lug nut up. Not the wheel or stud, but just the lug nut the best you can and as evenly as possible. You don't need it red hot, but like 30 seconds of evenly heating it should do the trick.

The heat will cause the lug nut to expand, and while it's still hot you take a several foot breaker bar (if you don't have one too long, find a piece of pipe that'll slide over the breaker bar handle), get a friend to hold the breaker bar / socket on the lug with gloves (HOT after torch) and you put your body weight on the breaker bar. If you get it hot enough evenly enough, you may not even need to extend the breaker bar.

I would try this before drilling out the studs, as those things are tough as hell.

If you can get it to crack loose, and it stops, give it a bit more heat but not too much as you don't want to start melting the lug / stud, or warping the wheel / rotors that are absorbing some of the heat as well.

[Sundance 6g72]

ill try to heat it up when i get a chance.... i have a huge pipe for my breaker bar and it always seems like it working but the socket just slips.. even if its a size small that was hammerd on.

[RoadWarrior222]

Are you sure it's the socket slipping, are these "cap" nuts? with a fancy chrome shell over the top? Sometimes you just need to pry/tear that crap off and deal with the real nut underneath.

[Sundance 6g72]

ill try to heat it up when i get a chance.... i have a huge pipe for my breaker bar and it always seems like it working but the socket just slips.. even if its a size small that was hammerd on.

its not crome

the ones are 3/4inch lugs but the one that is stuck is a different size NUT type lug. Its deff not a cromed out thing but its obviously not super high quality

[zin]

ill try to heat it up when i get a chance.... i have a huge pipe for my breaker bar and it always seems like it working but the socket just slips.. even if its a size small that was hammered on.

its not chrome

the ones are 3/4inch lugs but the one that is stuck is a different size NUT type lug. Its deff not a chromed out thing but its obviously not super high quality

That socket seems to be yielding, so you'll either need an sacrificial impact socket, or one of the purpose built units, if you go this route...

Its always got to be something doesn't it?!

Mike

[Sundance 6g72]

yep

change the clutch, clutch works. But suddly we have a coolant leak. Try to get to timing belt and wheel dosnt come off!!

i have all craftsmen tools so im not worried about ruining a socket.

[zin]

i have all craftsmen tools so im not worried about ruining a socket.

Not so much that you'll ruin it, more it will give/expand letting the nut slip past, rounding the points more and more, a more rigid socket/thicker wall will hold its shape better so it doesn't loose it's grip... But I think your socket with a generous dose of heat will get the job done easy enough (or so I would hope!)

Mike

[Big_P]

Make sure you're using SIX point sockets.