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Thread: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    cool shirt, but you gotta scrape off or black out one of the "t"s, lol.

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    haha im not worried about. Everyone knows they are meaner when they are single turbo anyways

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    Well 6g72tt is not a real engine designation, just something we all made up. I run a 6g72TH on my daily :P
    In JDM speak, it means fast. SR20de vs sr20det (except those are real engine designations :P). Mitsu doesn't seem to care about turbochargers.
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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    ^maybe because they designed it well enough to not need to be revised it for turbocharging use?..
    so i got a 6g72tg, future 6g72tpt, or 6g72tbwaw. i like it.

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    How about a 6g72SKB
    Some of those screw blowers are pretty tempting if you had a motor that could handle the torque (not something I want to try on stock rods if you want to push 600-1000ft/lb).
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    i think we can all agree that ways of forcing extra air into the motor are getting better and better all the time. screw blowers have come a looong way from the 6-71's. and its hard to argue with instant torque.

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    if we activly post in my thread throughout the day, it gets 200+ veiws on average.. at least that i have found

    crazy to think about. most views in the 3.0 section

    ---------- Post added at 12:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:48 AM ----------

    and here we are talking about screwing and blowing


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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    my cams came in. Thanks Simon

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    hmmm got any specs on the cams?

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    whatever stage 2 is

    Stage 2 is 270 and 429,
    lift might be more like 410 or something. there was a dispute about the rock ratio and bla bla bla but i knew that going in. im happy either way. They look good. look like stock as far as im concerned O.o

    wont be able to install until it warms up. I want to run the motor first and make sure it still works haha

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    i think you'll like them, for me it was a hard call to make but i went with the milder ones for the sake of torque. also unless you bust out the micrometers you probably wont see a visual difference with them. but your tuning will need some changes, lol. look forward to your results.

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    Rocker ratio is definitely at least 1.6. Sorry for those who disagree.
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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    ^i agree 100%, i confirmed that for myself when i was making sure the cam wouldnt bottom out the valve spring retainer on the valve stem seal, used a dial indicator to determine lift on the cam and lift at the valve. what throws people off is they are assuming the cam acts on the cam roller at a different point than it really does.

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    Quote Originally Posted by shayne View Post
    ^i agree 100%, i confirmed that for myself when i was making sure the cam wouldnt bottom out the valve spring retainer on the valve stem seal, used a dial indicator to determine lift on the cam and lift at the valve. what throws people off is they are assuming the cam acts on the cam roller at a different point than it really does.
    Since you compared the lift at the cam versus the actual lift at the valve with a dial indicator, what is the actual measured ratio? I know quite a few people would LOVE to know the true answer to this question.

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Since you compared the lift at the cam versus the actual lift at the valve with a dial indicator, what is the actual measured ratio? I know quite a few people would LOVE to know the true answer to this question.
    IIRC we figured the rocker ratio to be about 1.62 a year or so ago. BoostedMopar is down now, so I can't double check the thread I had on it.
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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    Sucks BM is down. There was some good info on there about some rare things. The one that comes to mind is somebody was working on getting left-over parts and blueprints for the AWD system used on the Daytona+4 from Weisman (the company that made it).

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Sucks BM is down. There was some good info on there about some rare things. The one that comes to mind is somebody was working on getting left-over parts and blueprints for the AWD system used on the Daytona+4 from Weisman (the company that made it).
    That was mech1nxh I think, he is on here too, just doesn't post much. Kevin may have some of that FAQ stuff saved, if so I can probably get it for the KC here.
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    my limited notes i have left from moving after doing my motor indicated a final calculated ratio of 1.6164:1 so.. 1.62:1. i just measured cam lobe height vs base circle with a set of mics, then made a steel plate to bridge the head across the valve cover flange, i made a dummy lash adjuster to eliminate slack and measured the actual valve lift off of the spring retainer with a dial guage whilst turning the cam (i used a light weight spring i pillaged from work to stand in for a valvespring). i could dig into packed boxes of crap if you really need me too to find the numbers.

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    side note, cause the cam interacts with the rocker roller in the way it does, the measured lift ratio is the peak lift ratio amount. ratio of lift before and after the peak lift, changes as the cam lobe rotates across the rocker roller. not by too much but it certainly looked like it does.

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    Re: Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

    Actually, with the rocker on a shaft, it should stay the same, or VERY close to it. The 2.2/2.5 however does not as the rocker kind of "floats".

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