Sundance 6g72 "3.0 turbo build thread"(N/A DYNO SHEET pics inside)

[RoadWarrior222]

Does it still have a floppy? You might find a linux bootfloppy image that will get it far enough to pull files off USB or HDD... though you can also use loadlin from a command line and point it to a kernal image... used to need to be a fat32 partition below 512mb, but that might have been how long ago I last messed with it.

[bond_bbs]

Does it still have a floppy? You might find a linux bootfloppy image that will get it far enough to pull files off USB or HDD... though you can also use loadlin from a command line and point it to a kernal image... used to need to be a fat32 partition below 512mb, but that might have been how long ago I last messed with it.

Some USB boot loaders and image loaders work the same way - I know for my XP install USB, the drive itself had to be less than 1gb, and the image partition the program made was only 512mb.


A simple solution that has worked for me in the past - get a Windows XP boot floppy, and use it to boot into dos mode. Put the Windows XP disk onto a small FAT32 formatted USB drive. Once in boot mode, you can run setup.exe from the usb drive. Providing the USB controller on the laptop is a standardized controller that the XP installer has the drivers for, everything should be good.

This link has the download links for the XP install floppies.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994

[Sundance 6g72]

Does it still have a floppy? You might find a linux bootfloppy image that will get it far enough to pull files off USB or HDD... though you can also use loadlin from a command line and point it to a kernal image... used to need to be a fat32 partition below 512mb, but that might have been how long ago I last messed with it.

the only thing i can boot from is the harddrive and the network.. i have failed to boot to the network so i guess if i got crafty i could take the harddrive out of the laptop and put it in my desktop.. install a linux boot loader onto it and then have the lappy boot to that and get me into my usb ubuntu flash drive and finally partition the drive to fit linux onto the tiny little drive

but honestly, im not that worried about it.. it works 90% of the time just fine.

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Some USB boot loaders and image loaders work the same way - I know for my XP install USB, the drive itself had to be less than 1gb, and the image partition the program made was only 512mb.


A simple solution that has worked for me in the past - get a Windows XP boot floppy, and use it to boot into dos mode. Put the Windows XP disk onto a small FAT32 formatted USB drive. Once in boot mode, you can run setup.exe from the usb drive. Providing the USB controller on the laptop is a standardized controller that the XP installer has the drivers for, everything should be good.

This link has the download links for the XP install floppies.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994

lol, i litteraly have all the floppys already sitting in my desk. the lappy dosnt have a flopppy drive though

[Ondonti]

I thought MS3 had a USB port?

[Sundance 6g72]

im running msII

but that wouldnt solve my issue of booting my laptop to a usb drive in order to load windows xp or ubuntu.


brent, could you take a second when your not busy to post up your turbo tune in that thread i made earlier. it would be nice to have somewhere to start when im boosted. Unless you have something against that

[Sundance 6g72]

did a little cruising tuning today. 35mph/45mph and under is basically set for 16:1 afr !!!! i rarely go under 14.5 when getting up to cruising speed. i should see a mpg increase i hope. i have gotten 100 miles out of a little less than half a tank and some of that was full blast bat out of hell driving on the highway or it was cruising around town.

id say 5gal got me around 22mpg.. not bad for alot of spirited driving

[Sundance 6g72]

finished porting and polishing my new throttle body tonight.. and by porting and polishing i mean i really just cleaned it up a little bit and the inside is nice and shiny. also trimmed down the throttle blade bolts. Anyone have any hints as to how i can remove the plug from so i can access the throttle stop bolt? cant remember how i did it to my other TB.

also, im loving megasquirt so much. so satisfying. That spark advance jump in the mid rpms at half throttle must really do wonders because third gear never pulled that hard at 35mph with like 60% throttle.

[Ondonti]

Either use a flathead screwdriver and smash it around or any other way you can think to loosen it up. I don't know of a smart way to do it, just bad ways to do it

I don't have a place to upload files and I can't open my files right now. Harddrive has been replaced twice and formatted a few times the last few months. Go DELL!
My VE map really has no work into it and my spark map is not compatible with pump gas. My VE map is actually on photobucket.

This map not what is on the car right now, but its close. My VE's are still over 100% in boost. Remember this is a high elevation map so my cutoffs are different. I also only devoted 4 bins to n/a tuning.
I was testing out the old auto tune and it made weird changes.

[Ondonti]

Did you have any results to share from upping our WOT timing?

[Sundance 6g72]

ehh nothing i could really feel but i didnt have much time to check it out.


would it be safe to go wide open with a friend in the car and have them change the timing to 45* from 31* while in the upper rpms? i would deff feel it if it gives me a gain.




the update i do have is that MS gives me amazing mpg and is very reliable. I had a paintball tournament today (for those who dont know, this is a big part of my life and i need a car to get me there reliably)

car started fine in the morning, got me through my 45min drive without a hickup and got me home with no issues. All with some crazy mpg.. started on a full tank and after getting there i still had a full tank. its like a 40min drive or so. i usually use a 1/4 tank and this time i deff used less than that. ave afr was 15.3 - 16.1 when cruising.

i am so satisfied with my MS

[Sundance 6g72]

i dont really want to push my timing too far unless you guys think its safe.. im still off on the trigger angle (still no timing light GFHGHTEAER) so ms might think im at 20* when im really at 22* or so. im sure its not off by much though because the car drives great but you never know

[Force Fed Mopar]

I would fix that first then.

[Ondonti]

Get your timing perfect. Then there will be nothing dangerous about 40 degrees in the uppers. More as rpms increase.

[Sundance 6g72]

ill see if i can do it today... friend with the timing light gets out of work around 3ish i think and i dont work today so it should work out.

[Sundance 6g72]

okay fixed the timing. trigger angle of 74.4

i was rollin around on 78 so it wasnt that far off

we did a wot pull in 4th to 120 and then upped 4000-5000rpm timing from 40 to 45 degrees and then upped 5000-6000 to 55 degrees (was 40*)

we all agreed that it hit 120 faster than before. it also felt healthy as well.

[Sundance 6g72]

i lied, that 55* is really 50*

im not sure how much further i should go

[Sundance 6g72]

i cant find mopar 3.0's timing table.

[Ondonti]

i would leave it like that for now.

He has 29.8 degrees from 2300 all the way to 7500. That must be with 12 degrees base timing.
I am sure he ran premium fuel, but remember he had 10:1 compression so he needed less timing then stock.
I had to install open office just to get that info for you out of his table :P
Edit:
Actually that was his 200kpa line. His 100kpa line is 35.8 from 2500 to 7500. Thats 47.8 degrees total.

[87turbodance]

Mopar3.0 used my timing map. The map I gave him had timing all in by 2500 rpm with a max of 44 degrees if I remember correctly.

He may have changed this but the last time him and I discussed it he was using my numbers which were basically an educated guess. (and still are).

I assume we are talking about when he was running MS1?

If so, his info should be total timing not plus base timing.

[Sundance 6g72]

so did i take it to far or what?? the car "felt" great and i kind of want to push it further with 93 octane