Turbonator-R: Race-type codebase for the SMEC/SBEC

[ShelGame]

OK, so now that I have a good handle on the 3D tables and the fuel calculations, I'd really like to build an 'ultimate' codebase for the SMEC and SBEC. I would include the 3D tables and lookups from the T3 (but simplify the 2D input tables), and I would include the current Turbonator features. But, what else could/should be included? I'd like to do a SWOL function, but that would require adding a clutch switch. Which means you'd have to lose and input from somewhere (cruise, A/C, etc.).

So, let's have some discussions about what you'd like to see in a Race-type codebase...

What is a must-have? More options for boost control? Simplified boost control? BOV Control?

What would you be willing to give up? Purge control? Cruise?

CCD Bus code I think is safe to give up since none of these cars really use it except for some '91's.


OK, from scanning the thread so far, here's the potential feature list:

1) 3-step rev limiter (burnout, staging, normal), spark cut
2) NOS Control
3) Alky Control
4) Bang-Bang anti-lag (needs the spark cut rev limiter to work)
5) SWOL (will have to add a clutch switch)
6) 3D Tables from later code, simplified
7) WB feedback control
8) LU Converter control

Features we can get rid of:

a) Purge control
b) EGR
c) CCD Bus

[Force Fed Mopar]

I would imagine on a car using a full race tune, purge and cruise could be done without Probably could lose the EGR instead of cruise, if you wanted to keep that (there is an EGR input right?).

[bakes]

I would like to see Nos controls added to the Retard controls that you Made for me ( haven't test it yet sorry Rob had to replace my new cylinder head )

egr and canister are good to get rid of.


Nos controls : on /off , rpm on/off , veh speed on, blocked when on the 2 setp

[Force Fed Mopar]

Maybe a real rally-style antilag, the kind that goes bang-bang-bang I've had a bee in my bonnet wanting to build an 8v w/ this for a while now. Be awesome for the mountains and rally/hill climb events.

[bakes]

Mabey a 5th injector

[ShelGame]

Mabey a 5th injector

It's possible using a V6 SMEC. What would you use the 5th for?

[bakes]

What about Wot shifting cutout ( needs clutch switch) with speed activation.

[Pat]

I have no idea what is possible or what you had in mind, but here's the wish list that I can think of:

SWOL shifting
NOS activation/control
burnout rev limit
spark cut staging limiter
Wideband target A/F for WOT - (that would be cool!)

Thanks for all you do. I've been reading up on your work quite a bit the last few months and am just about to start messing with T-SMEC for my Aries. Can't wait!

Pat

[Juggy]

+1 to WOT shifting

[bakes]

Trans brake control
the trans brake Simon/ don has uses the a lock up sol in a modified valve body



and a 3.ol turbo cal

[Juggy]

I have no idea what is possible or what you had in mind, but here's the wish list that I can think of:

SWOL shifting
NOS activation/control
burnout rev limit
spark cut staging limiter
Wideband target A/F for WOT - (that would be cool!)

Thanks for all you do. I've been reading up on your work quite a bit the last few months and am just about to start messing with T-SMEC for my Aries. Can't wait!

Pat

burnout limiter?!?!? comon.....thats what your foot is for!!!! keep it steady and shred those slicks. i rarely pop the limiter on a burnout

[shelbymonster]

- alky/nos control
- wot shift limiter
- staging limiter
- multi boost target ? like 10-15-20-25 psi ?? on a knob switch using the stock solenoid
- open loop o2 feedback ?

[Pat]

burnout limiter?!?!? comon.....thats what your foot is for!!!! keep it steady and shred those slicks. i rarely pop the limiter on a burnout

You're right. Might as well ditch the staging limiter too...that's what the right foot is for! :-)

A second rev limiter for the burnout would make it much easier to get the same heat in the slicks, consistently, run after run, for a more consistent launch. I see this as a big help for those making big power, particuarly with a 5 speed, who are always on the ragged edge of traction.

[roachjuice]

I have no idea what is possible or what you had in mind, but here's the wish list that I can think of:

SWOL shifting
NOS activation/control
burnout rev limit
spark cut staging limiter
Wideband target A/F for WOT - (that would be cool!)

Thanks for all you do. I've been reading up on your work quite a bit the last few months and am just about to start messing with T-SMEC for my Aries. Can't wait!

Pat

I like this mans thinking.

[Force Fed Mopar]

- multi boost target ? like 10-15-20-25 psi ?? on a knob switch using the stock solenoid

We can already do this w/ the FourPlay/DoublePlay Rob sells.

[shackwrrr]

No part throttle maps. One map for fuel, one for spark with more resolution.
Spark cut anything
Rally antilag - AIC open all the way, super rich, stupid retarded ignition.
I would like to keep cruise, since Im sure many will run this on the street.

Also couldnt you just do a more simple 3d table, more like megasquirt where you plug in map and rpm and it spits out a PW. then simple 2d table multipliers for intake temp, knock retard, Ect?

[Juggy]

No part throttle maps. One map for fuel, one for spark with more resolution.
Spark cut anything
Rally antilag - AIC open all the way, super rich, stupid retarded ignition.
I would like to keep cruise, since Im sure many will run this on the street.

Also couldnt you just do a more simple 3d table, more like megasquirt where you plug in map and rpm and it spits out a PW. then simple 2d table multipliers for intake temp, knock retard, Ect?

i dont know if u can just elimate a map....but you could just do what they did with the S60 cal and match PT table to WOT

[ShelGame]

i dont know if u can just elimate a map....but you could just do what they did with the S60 cal and match PT table to WOT

Sure you can, just not sure if that's a good idea. You don't really want to run WOT-rich all the time do you? If you did that, you would basically have to remove the O2 sensor completely...

[Aries_Turbo]

you can do the burnout limiter with the fourplay/doubleplay as well pat. have one cal with a lower limiter and select that cal with the fourplay/doubleplay knob when doing a burnout. just remember to switch it back.

id want a cal with as much unnecessary code modules as possible for speed.... like running a screaming 2.0L at 8k.

id also want lockup TC control.

Brian

[shackwrrr]

Sure you can, just not sure if that's a good idea. You don't really want to run WOT-rich all the time do you? If you did that, you would basically have to remove the O2 sensor completely...

WOT should only be 0in/hg and up. PT 0 and down.