Any more info on this?
Any more info on this?
I always laugh when i see an engine painted like that. Half of that would fall off after a few heat cycles.
I dont know who it is, though.
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Vht caliper paint sticks very good , Boostgeek did his whole exhaust and it sticks and is unburned right to the turbo. on it's second year now
Oh cool, ive been looking for black paint that would stick to exhaust parts! Thanks!
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Why put in a 146 hp motor that weighs more than a turbo 4 with 142 hp stock and a lot more mods are available?
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'coz low end torque beats four aces.
DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!
No replacement for displacement :P
3.0 makes a lot of low-rpm power and is super reliable.Plus a 3.0 omni is more unique. If you want to be special with a 2.2 omni you've pretty much got to run 9s.
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Because you don't actually know how much either motor weighs or what mods are availableOriginally Posted by ATaylorRacing
This ain't no bolt on world anymore.
For braggers, Kreel has the Big bad daddy of them all for T-M motorswaps in his possession and it ain't no 4. I heard one today in the parking lot and turned green with envy.
I don't think we will ever get more info about that omni. When someone says their carbed 2.2 beat a bunch of v8's at the drag strip heads up.....
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25-30 mpg, seems alot of work to get less MPG,
Either way, pretty cool,
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I dunno, if it was back in the day and it was a bunch of Camaros with the mis-fire... maybe a smog choked dippy and a ford LTD thrown in...
DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!
This thread makes me think maybe I should just shoe-horn in the whole 3.3/3.8 AWD set-up into the Omni instead of engineering it to work with the 2.2... Might be easier!
Mike
PS I guess I could still turbo it, or just slap some nitrous on it to get the HP up to snuff...
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Go bigger, 4.0 with the 6 speed + AWD... actually the 3.5 might suit it better.
DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!
I always figured it just wouldn't fit without alot of mods... maybe not though...Go bigger, 4.0 with the 6 speed + AWD
Mike
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry
Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
- Edmund Burke
Chop off the Omni in front of the firewall, the Pacifica behind the firewall, drill and bolt, bondo the join, go from there...
DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!
I'd personally stay away from the ChryCo v6's. Matter of personal preference though. I'd rather bolt in a 3.0 with extensive head work, turbo exhaust manifolds and Megasquirt or similar - at least you can find a 5 speed that bolts up and you can easily adapt the AWD transfer case to.
A 88-94mini V6 SMEC harness will transplant in with minimal mods into a omni (same bulkhead connector swap 2 wires) Throw a turbo on it like Brent did on his V6's a liquid to air IC and hold ON!!
If it was that simple I think we'd see a lot more 3.3/3.8 swaps with turbos. The problem is nobody goes through with it and there is very little documentation for what has been done. Sure, there's bolt-ons by going to different era 3.3/3.8's...but that doesn't take you far. I'm sure power could be made...but at what cost? And what are the limits of the stock block? When does it become a necessity to build up the A-604 or start the grand venture to find the elusive stratus r/t 5-speed? There's a lot of unanswered questions out there still
Don't get me wrong; I have owned many 3.3/3.8's and they are a decent engine that are quite reliable that have some good low-end torque. But when it comes to performance IMO the 3.0L leaves it in the dust.
I never said 3.3/3.8 !!!! im still talking 3.0l !!!! they had 3.0l SMEC since 1988 and they did come 3sp autos .If it was that simple I think we'd see a lot more 3.3/3.8 swaps with turbos. The problem is nobody goes through with it and there is very little documentation for what has been done. Sure, there's bolt-ons by going to different era 3.3/3.8's...but that doesn't take you far. I'm sure power could be made...but at what cost? And what are the limits of the stock block? When does it become a necessity to build up the A-604 or start the grand venture to find the elusive stratus r/t 5-speed? There's a lot of unanswered questions out there still
Don't get me wrong; I have owned many 3.3/3.8's and they are a decent engine that are quite reliable that have some good low-end torque. But when it comes to performance IMO the 3.0L leaves it in the dust.
I am too lazy to type it all out right now but i dont agree about that last sentence. Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack.
The reason more people havent swapped 3.3/3.8s into other bodies is that there was NO support in the community for it, and i dont just mean documentation or information support, i mean people were attacked for suggesting it. The 3.3/3.8 suffer from the same attitude problem the 3.0 has suffered from on the internet, except at a higher level because it never came with a 5spd in a light car.
Considered on it's own merits it's a wonderful motor, easier to work on than the 3.0, more reliable, making more power (by 60+ hp and lbft on the high end), being physically the same size or smaller while packing more displacement, getting the same gas mileage, etc.
I figured out the 2.7 t850 thing back in like 04. I was trying to buy a swap setup from someone who did the swap into a 2g caravan before most people knew it was even possible. All of this means nothing to most people if there is no documentation on the internet and noone to encourage anyone when im not around. Now we have a guy swapping a 3.3 into a daytona on this forum and another guy on TD who went from 2.5 to running 3.3 in a matter of like 2 weeks from idea to running car. It IS easy. The odler 3.8 can easily be bolt-on'd up to 200hp/250tq power levels, the newer 3.8s START there, and its literally the same price and difficulty of swap as a 3.3. The power limits of the stock 604s have been explored by neon and pt cruiser people and if you dont like the stock controller we have i think 3 different known options to control it, and Shelgame has offered to take a crack at the factory controller. Ive swapped autostick onto one of mine and really enjoyed that too. You can get factory diff ratios from 3.4 to 4.3:1 out of mixing stock parts in it, 2 converter diameters in a range of stalls from the factory, peloguin or obx can be modified into it, or you can swap to t850.
Theres even one member floating around TD who had a turbo'd 3.3 for years, and im betting the reason he never posted up explicit info is because he didnt want to listen to the childish crap people dish out about the 140cfm8v being CLEARLY the best motor for performance.
Really the only thing standing in anyone's way is a lack of faith engendered by the sour attitude towards the 3.3/3.8 thats presented on the forums.
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