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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Oh btw, on unofficial timing, I figure my van runs about 17.5 with both seats, full size spare(50lb), 40lb tools/junk and a couple of gallons of misc spare fluids, half a tank of gas and 220lb of me.... and I still think it's lighter than Simons... ... I should take it to the track "race prepped" (i.e. seats and junk out) and see if it will get into the 16s.
    DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    I think you should take the escort and see if it actually runs 15s.........

    I dont remember the name of the guy who owned it, but i think i remember seeing it on robs korner back in the day.. maybe it was his?

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    I should, it's slightly crippled by a cheapskate exhaust fix at the moment though (Section of old smaller tubing in it) didn't want to fork out $100 for a piece I would be junking if/when I find a header, put a high flow cat and full 2.25" system on... it's possibly due to restriction that it started eating flexpipes.... will have to jump on that this spring, because I'm suspecting stock cat is about done, and for the $300 I would spend on direct replacement cat and fitted OEM replacement pipes, I could probably do something quite a lot nicer. Funnily, with the exhaust wide open at the flexpipe, it was slower, with the pipe patched but no muffler, it was faster than that but slower than before, then the new walker SoundFX muffler went on and it got a little faster, but still just off what it was... must be real sensitive for momentum scavenging... which I kinda suspected, hence not going for 2.5" and also holding out to find '89 GT headers rather than the cheap eBay OBX ones, that are on the large side.
    DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Since Strax22 broke his 568 im thinking about SHAMELESSLY STEALING his 568 guts for the tall-gear hybrid 543 i want to build.

    I ran the numbers and with a 245/45r18 tire and a 568/3.5fd 543, 3rd gear will do 115+ and 5th gear will do ~2200 rpm at 70. Exactly what i want!

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    That would be interesting... dunno if you'd get anything by doing it... but it would be interesting.

    Meaning that despite turning less RPM, you might end up sucking about the same amount of gas, because it's lower down the torque hump and probably needs more lb/bhp
    DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Based on my vague impressions, a 3.0 @~2200 rpm should not need much load to maintain 70. I dont know if it will be ideal but i think it will be close enough that im not digging myself a hole.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Where has this gone since January. I just spent the last 3 hours reading all of this. (It took that long because some of it had to be re-read several times so I could process it)

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    It's gone nowhere..

    At the first of the year, i got slammed with work and had no free time, and then at the beginning of summer the work went away and i had the unenviable position of having free time but no inclination to work on my projects and no good place to do it. I have since quit my tech job since being a tech makes me not want to work on my own cars and i like my hobby more than the job. Applying for a few teaching gigs currently.

    Im SUPPOSED to be moving into a house with a GARAGE next month!

    Sorry to disappoint!

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    No disappointment, this is all a learning experience for me. Hope that house thing works out and thanks for all the great info and pics

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Just read thru this also, looks like a nice plan. Gettin' hwy mpg in town would be win, not to mention the launch assist..
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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    bought a cheap 3.8 grand caravan to part out for a bunch of other cars (mine and my friends'). My 90 dynasty is getting a 3.8 swap. My cousin's 3.8 T&C got several part Im taking the 5x114.3 front bearings for my van to finally finish the bolt pattern conversion.

    I just gave my 11" 5x100 brake setup to Strax22 for his turbo 95 van. He also took the BCM because his has a blown dimmer function and he took the overhead console and ac compressor too.

    I also used the van to haul loads of trash and boxes for my upcoming move to a new place.

    All that for $325, and it had working ac and a full tank of gas. I recovered the refrigerant and drove through all the gas too. lol

    I love deals like that where you can part it out ten different ways and give your friends free parts and upgrade your other cars and drive it around before you take it apart and then scrap it and get all your money back.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Finished the 5x114.3 front brake conversion.

    AND found that it wont start now.. Worked a week ago..

    Sounds like the hose coming off the fuel pump popped or popped off. Down with the tank again.. grumble..

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Too bad you're not closer to Ohio, was as Canton pull a part today and they had a 2003 Prius battery pack for $50.
    Ian Adams Function>Form 1990 shadow scrapped, too rusty:( 1991 Spirit R/T Scrapped, parts sold:( 1989 Turbo Caravan Daily beater with built-[I]ish [/I]​engine slowly evolving into weekend turbo beater.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Snap!! That woulda been awesome! Shipping would suck, though.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    "Anything liquid, perishable, or potentially hazardous?"...

    "No, just a couple batteries with a residual voltage around 200v, that's safe to mail right ?
    Ian Adams Function>Form 1990 shadow scrapped, too rusty:( 1991 Spirit R/T Scrapped, parts sold:( 1989 Turbo Caravan Daily beater with built-[I]ish [/I]​engine slowly evolving into weekend turbo beater.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Yeah, even if there were no other issues the weight and size would make it expensive.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    Just ship it via truck, but there is an economy of scale that would make this deal a bit too small, kinda needs to be cubic palette size to be economical, but at least you don't have to worry about the hazardous nature of it precluding them being shipped, but might have to pay an extra $50.00 fee or so.

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    Re: Awd, Boosted, 5spd, Hybrid Gas/Electric 1990 Caravan?

    If I lived in my own place I would have picked it up, either for my own projects or the possibility of someone up here going down there that could haul it.
    Ian Adams Function>Form 1990 shadow scrapped, too rusty:( 1991 Spirit R/T Scrapped, parts sold:( 1989 Turbo Caravan Daily beater with built-[I]ish [/I]​engine slowly evolving into weekend turbo beater.

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