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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

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    Alan, post 23 has a link.
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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4 l-bodies View Post
    Jay,
    Just looked at your completed crank pulley. Well done! You could sell those! I'll bet a few guys would be in the market. At least you wouldn't have any surprises making them as you know what needs to be done. I'll bet you have a few hours into that one.
    Todd

    Thanks Todd. The thought of selling them has crossed my mind but selling things to the TD/TM community has borderlined on the more hassle than it's worth fence for me to decide wether I'm going to or not. I'm leaning more towards to making one more and selling my stock one. I have about 5.5hrs into the machining of it. Some of that is just setting up the lathe twice since I did it after work over 2 days and I could probably go faster now that I know what I'm doing.

    That being said something else showed up in the mail today.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    HaHa, Jay got his crank SCRAPER on 4/20 Get it, scraper, 4/20. Nah, I don't either but since he is talking about national stoner day something nonsensical seemed pertinent


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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Alan you a funny guy. Go back to your bong You're welcome for the big link.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Stock crank gear weighs 672.4 grams. New gear weighs 403.4 grams. So lost just over 1/2lb off the end of the crank or just over 1/3 of the total weight of a stock gear. I could probably get that down to 325 grams or so but don't feel like setting up the rotory table.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Jay,
    Did you order your rods direct or through Mike at FM? I did some math last night using your CH height in a TD block. 2.5 with the longest rod I can put in there and rod ratio could in theory be as high a 1.62. That is leaving a little room for deck resurfacing and leaving the piston about .005 down. Almost what stock 2.2 is. Hehe. I can almost hear Peters... there is no replacement for displacement. Yeah so why did he build a 2.0 ltr for his GLH?
    Maybe making progress on some TD masi timing belts. Got some phone calls out there. Probably would do the idler trick on the intake side like Jackson did on the Lotus motors.
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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    I ordered them through Mike. Do I need to make post #13 bigger for you old men to read?

    ---------- Post added at 06:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:04 PM ----------

    Fixed post #13 for ya Todd

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    those rods n pistons are sexy

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    thanks jugs.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Found another 88 gear so I'm probably going to sell my CB masi crank pulley.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    More parts arrived in the mail.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Well, seeing as I'm officially in the Masi Brotherhood (picked up my 16V engine this weekend), I've been also toiling over the TD Masi combo. So, if there is a solution that comes to pass on this...I'm game!

    BTW, the regular timing belts also look to be needing to be sourced. Anybody got a clue on that one yet?

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Working on it slowly...

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Well, seeing as I'm officially in the Masi Brotherhood (picked up my 16V engine this weekend), I've been also toiling over the TD Masi combo. So, if there is a solution that comes to pass on this...I'm game!
    Solution that comes to pass on WHAT?

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Quote Originally Posted by GLHNSLHT2 View Post
    Solution that comes to pass on WHAT?
    The timing belt for a Masi TD combo! LOL I REALLY would love to build that as I think it would simply be a very nice combo!

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    I still dont understand the question. A masi head on a non-masi block with a non-masi crank timing gear or what?

    Dont push the red button.You hear me?

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Jay, what does Oliver give for torque on your rods? Torque and then angle? If so, ignore that and use only the stretch method. If they say.... .0050" to .0060" then slowly climb up in ftlbs to a final of .0050" (or even a bit less like .0045" is good) but don't go over that .0060" If a 3/8" thread, try starting at 40lbs and see what your stretch is... and go in 5lb incremements from there.
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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    I still dont understand the question. A masi head on a non-masi block with a non-masi crank timing gear or what?
    I want to install a Masi head on a Tall Deck (TD) block using a non-Masi (but very built) bottom end. The issue with this is that there doesn't seem to be a timing belt that will work for this combination.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    Oh, gotcha.

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    Re: well I guess I'll jump on the band wagon of 2.5 16v's.

    i have been working on it slowly... and know a lot more about the lingo for belts that I even thought i had to learn.. So the tree is growing... just no fruit yet..

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