Ive got the original owners title for my CSXT and its titled as a Shelby. However the last owner had it titled as a dodge. Im hoping I can show them the original title and switch it back to Shelby!
Ive got the original owners title for my CSXT and its titled as a Shelby. However the last owner had it titled as a dodge. Im hoping I can show them the original title and switch it back to Shelby!
Let us know how you make out. When I regestered my GLHS in Alberta the best I could get on my registration was Dodge Shelby GLHS and that was a struggle. I had all the Shelby documents and U.S. Shelby title but the VIN still interprets as a Dodge so Dodge had to be present.
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Randy
Originally Posted by glhs0075
Last edited by GLHS60; 03-12-2011 at 05:46 PM. Reason: sp
There is no logical reason to call an Engine a motor.
Randy Hicks
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In the worst case I would settle for Dodge Shelby Shadow if it really came down to it. I'd just like to have Shelby on the title somewhere.
as far as the value of the cars made at Whittier, do you think the value of the car would be effected at all based on whether the title read "dodge" versus "shelby" when selling the car to any knowledgeable buyer? i know it wouldn't make any difference to me as a buyer.
True. I guess, unless I heard wrong, that no 60's Shelby Mustangs were ever titled as "Shelby" I don't think that hurt their values.do you think the value of the car would be effected at all based on whether the title read "dodge" versus "shelby"
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The Shelby mustangs were titled as ford
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At a show, was fun to say mine was a shelby theirs was a ford!!!
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I don't think it would add to the worth. Like I said, in my case, I just want it done for myself, personally. The only worth I could see coming out of a car being titled as a Shelby is one that has the original MCF or some kind of factory Whittier paperwork that came with their car upon purchase.
LOL. We had 3 86 GLHS's and my 87 GLHS sitting next to each other at a car show a couple years ago. A 2007 Black Shelby Mustang pulls up next to my car. I told one of the guys next to me, "Look, 5 Black Shelby's and only 4 are real" I thought that was kinda funny. Then the guy gets out of his car and it just happened to be someone in our Shelby Dodge club. I had no idea he had that car. I hope he's not on this forum.
At a show, was fun to say mine was a shelby theirs was a ford!!!
Coon Rapids, MN
'90 Chysler TC
'87 Shelby GLHS #784
'87 Shelby GLHS #654
'87 Shelby Charger
'89 Daytona Shelby TII T-Top
'89 Lebaron Convert TII
'89 Lebaron Convert TI auto
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So I got my answer back from Harrisburg, PA (DMV headquarters here) and they sent me an application along with a list of specific inspection garages where I would have to fill this application in order to have the title recoded as a variety of different ways, such as salvage, reconstructed, flood, specially constructed, collectible, modified, kit car, etc. They informed me through a letter that of course the VIN# shows it as a Dodge Shadow and therefore cannot change it to a Shelby. However, with the description I gave them of the car being modified at the Shelby Whittier Plant, and everything on the car saying Shelby or CSX, that I would have to take it to one of the 100+ garages throughout the state to have them inspect it and deem it as a "Specially Constructed" vehicle. I, however, would not want this, as it seems this description fits more of a Kit Car type vehicle rather than a car produced by a national car manufacturer. I feel, if anything, I would try to have it deemed as a collectible, since they request yet another letter to go along with the paperwork application/inspection report detailing why the car would be a collectible.
I spoke to my Uncle about this since he is a Used Car Dealer and he said he would probably leave it alone because he isn't a big fan of seeing any additional codes on titles. I am tending to agree with him since I'm starting to feel that it may not be worth the hassle just to have the title changed, I mean who sees it anyways right? lol... I also read in the paperwork something relating to a new state-issued VIN# being prescribed to the vehicle, where, if I read it correctly, would mean that the title coming back may not even have a VIN that matches the car then? I don't know, a bit disappointed... but I'll still ponder it anyways since my car is still in the tearing apart/prepping stage anyhow, in other words, not even close to being taken to one of these garages to be inspected. Once it's done and I can do some more research on what the difference is between the Specially Constructed and Collectible designations, I'll go from there.
The best I could do here in Tennessee was to have it listed as make-Dodge and model-Shelby. I can deal with that.
Yeah that doesn't sound too bad. PA always seems to be picky about car-related business where as other states seem to be so cool about it. Ugh.
Talked with an "insurance lawyer" once. The VIN is the sole factor in determining "MANUFACTURER". They all have an official code #. As does country of origin. "Retrofit companies",or "coachbuilders" can produce a specific "MODEL". But they don't manufacture the car from raw materials. So when it gets to court, it will be a Dodge. Regardless of what the clerk typed on the title.
Watch out for state issued VIN # as they are construed as custom built autos. Possibly not conforming to safety regulations. And consequently not very insurable, or costly to insure.
Which is what I was thinking... so I doubt I'll be pursuing this at all. It's a numbered car as is, that's all that matters haha...
Yeah, I just was told that my car would have to be inspected by a local state inspector out of the local highway patrol office and all that jazz. Screw it, I dont have time for this, Im gonna just go get the title swapped out at is and just keep the original "Shelby" title for future arguments as to wether this is a REAL Shelby or not.
It seems to me that the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin should be the defining fact. MSOs are the originating document by which any car enters the state's registration system. The MSOs were issued by Shelby.
John Laing
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IF we had the MSO, many people dont.
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Yeah, but with Shelby being with Ford now, doubt we'll ever get the MSO's if you don't have it with your car already
Too bad nobody knew what these things were back in the day!
The dumb thing is that the MSOs were supposedly delivered to the DMV by the dealer when the car was first sold.
John Laing
"The sole condition which is required in order to succeed in centralizing the supreme power in a democratic community, is to love equality, or to get men to believe you love it. Thus the science of despotism, which was once so complex is simplified, and reduced . . . . to a single principle."
-- Alexis de Tocqueville
"One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
--Ayn Rand
"To evolve, you don't need a Constitution. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box . . . . things will evolve as much as you want. All of these changes can come about democratically; you don't need a Constitution to do that and it's not the function of a Constitution to do that."
-- Justice Antonin Scalia
Oh yeah? Well is there any possible way the state would still have such a thing on record despite now being 22 years later?
So...
My vehicle regristration now reads:
"Manufacturer: Shelby"
"Model: Charger GLHS"
!!!!
I guess I should get my insurance papers changed now to match!
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