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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    Some of them.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreel View Post
    Love the detail + pics. Whenever I get around to tearing down a shortblock I'll be referring back to this
    Seeing the pics makes it a lot easier to pick up the torch. I would have liked to get this all done a lot faster but I have had little motivation with work and personal life orbiting around me.
    All i managed to do today was pick up some silver solder for the mechanical rocker oil passages (drill large, then fill, then use tiny drill bit to drill the solder), and oil pan return parts. Bought some copper solder and I will see if I can seal up the weld on the pan with that. I don't anticipate a good weld when i put the cast iron 45 degree 1/2" NPT fitting onto the oil pan. No idea what the copper solder will do. I saw it and bought it. My original pan was copper brazed by the shop that repaired what a friend had tried to weld.

    I am going to keep documenting with pics as I go. That also takes time. You will see the good things and the bad things I do. I will be replacing the rear and front main seals, but then you will see me reuse some felpro composite headgaskets that are on the duster and about a year old now. Yes since I have a job now it doesn't make financial sense but its fun showing how to get away with it.

    One questionable thing is my coolant crossover. I emergency JB welded a spot on the bypass tube that rusted through and was leaking BAD (it blew out near the end of my last trip), but it might be a good idea to weld it. That leaking headgasket sure created some nasty corrosion in my coolant system. Worried about the heater core, which I assume is mostly clogged with rust powder. Every time I turn the block over as I work on it, more rust powder falls out even though I have spent extensive time trying to knock it all out. I don't want to see the heater core pop a leak.

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    Maybe I missed this somewhere earlier in the thread, but are you putting your Duster parts into the Spirit?
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    Some of them.
    All the turbo specific parts were originally installed on my Spirit (except the larger turbo) and designed for my Spirit.
    Yup, while tempted to just keep playing with it, I want my daily to be turbo and the Duster needs an update. The Spirit is getting pretty much everything off the Duster except the shortblock, intake manifold (I might swap that as well), and turbo. The Duster was toned down this last summer running on stock heads. The shortblock in the Duster is a ticking timebomb for rod knock as 1 journal is out of spec, so it can't go into a daily driver.
    The Duster's turbo manifold was meant for a daily driver when it was built so its going where it belongs. I have not really released my complete plans for the Duster and I don't even have time to touch it. Its been sitting since September with no rear window.
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    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    The JB can hold up, but you surface prep needs to be very good. ie. get rid of all the corrision, then clean the surface with brake cleaner (I prefer the stuff that has acetone in it.)

    For epoxy a thicker epoxy is better because you can mold it and it will maintain it's shape while it cures. With JB weld, you can use clay or tape to form a dam.

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    All i remember is that I sanded it and JB'd it. I...probably cleaned it lol. JB weld (well pretty much anything) tends to do a better job sealing against pressure when applied from the inside because it creates an interference fit, sadly not possible. It was a test fix cause I was trying to figure out what was up with the car. I probably have more crossover pipes anyways. I would really like to move to the non 2 bolt transmission bracket style crossover (I think its a Diamante pipe). I have one of those but will probably save it for the Duster.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    I would just get another pipe, better safe than sorry.
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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    Well after thinking about the fact that I have more job and less time, I bought 2 new headgaskets and reused the Junkyards Felpro headgaskets to install the Spirits bad heads on it. Had to drill out the webbing between cylinders 1 and 3 on the rear exhaust manifold to fit the oil dipstick. Grrrr. So the Duster now has a 10:1 shortblock, stock heads with at least 1 leaking valve, diamante cams, custom intake manifold, 3" something or other (eventually get the 3" exhaust put back on so its not 3" open headache with no turbo), and megasquirt, and no rear window still.
    I had previously planned on having the Duster just be completely dead until I had time for it. I like this better.

    On the turbo friendly gauges I need to add, I decided to use an OEM boost gauge that was in a box of crap inside the Duster when I bought it. Then since it strangely has 2 black painted metal faceplates behide the clear plastic, I will take one of those and make a mock OEM style enclosure and stick my Innovative MTX-L sceen behind it. That will mean nobody can see the round gauge pod shape of it, just the lights and #'s. I think I am going to enjoy that fraud OEM look. I will lose the cubby hole that I love in AA bodies but I don't really keep anything there that actually needs to be there. I think its worth not having any gauges sticking out where the don't belong.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    you talking about the cubby in front of the shifter? thats the only one mine has..

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    The cubby below the center vents. I have always loved it but I figure eventually I will get a phone that won't fit in there and having a spot just to hold some quarters that keep flying out if I do a powershift is not a great reason to keep it.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    All i remember is that I sanded it and JB'd it. I...probably cleaned it lol. JB weld (well pretty much anything) tends to do a better job sealing against pressure when applied from the inside because it creates an interference fit, sadly not possible. It was a test fix cause I was trying to figure out what was up with the car. I probably have more crossover pipes anyways.
    It's semi-possible, just gotta do it a bit different... you cut a strip of steel or aluminum (Depending what you're fixing, wanna try and keep thermal expansion the same) that you can slide in sideways and pull a bolt through, and slather that through the hole with JB, more all round the bolt and tighten a bolt and washer down on top, makes for reinforcement. Don't have to have it bolted up real tight, so you can hold the spare thread with pliers to get it snugged up good enough if you didn't find a way of stopping the head revolving. Could possibly have pulled a bolt and washer through from the tranny end with a magnetic "fishing" rod on that.... then back slathered it and smoothed it out with a flashlight and stick... buuuut not worth the bother if you think you can change it out easy enough later. Worth bearing in mind for stuff like holed plastic rad tanks etc. I double fender washered my tranny case with JB but that was a little easier to get to the back of.... though I think I ended up "fishing" it through because I couldn't be both sides of it at once.

    The other way to do smaller pipes that rot out in a single spot or get holed or chafed is to wrap them with mechanics wire, coiled close all round, then either solder, braze or JB weld into/over that. Makes a reinforced tube over the top. Evacuate fuel, oil or brake lines thoroughly before getting heat on them though.
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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    Ahh ok, that makes more sense. I have a message center there with lights and stuff, no cubby. I plan to use it to mount wb02 and egt.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    I don't have time to caption this all up or explain things (I will try to later) but its pretty much a complete breakdown of finishing up building a 3.0 and then a fine detail breakdown of everything else.

    The injectors are 30#, the fuel rail is an old style parallel.
    I have a leaking crossover pipe problem, already replaced the jb welded one and I needed to, the bypass is now split down the middle just from sitting. Replaced it with another pipe but its a pipe that gave me problems years ago and I sorta forgot. new pipes are 40+ for the short and 80+ for the long and I don't want to pay no matter how annoying the leak issue gets.
    Also have a downpipe problen. Exhaust is about 0.5-1" too short to hook up without massive preload. I stripped out the 4" v band clamp when trying to put the downpipe back on after swapping coolant crossovers (with new o rings). I was NOT happy about that. Going to attempt to fix it by adding 2 more 3 bolt flanges to the end of my downpipe with 2 more gaskets, like a sandwich. I don't want to hack up the downpipe anymore if I can help it. It doesn't want to line up perfectly with the v band flange and that is he only reason I will cut and reweld anything.

    I won't start her until she is ready to drive so I can beat on her. This area sucks for joyrides because there are no usable roads (or unpatrolled roads).


















    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Sexy. I didnt need captions for any of it, anyway.

    It's gonna be SWEET! So whats actually left?

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    Nice write up. Interesting mod to the t-body.

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