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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    pipe strapping and J bolts...... or maybe a bigass U bolt.
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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    piece of flat stock, two pieces of allthread, 4 washers and 4 nylock nuts. no track should complain about that.

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    i have a battery i got for cheep off my buddy when he rolled his neon.. it dosnt bolt into the battery tray like the old one so i have it tied in by a rope

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    Well I am probably going to use some sort of strap and bolt it into the plastic tray. Its technically legal because the battery is not relocated. I did read about some guy failing inspection with OEM front clamp setup on his F body so there can always be that one awesome inspector. I don't want to drill holes into metal at this point. This big drycell is 21 pounds, not a lot lighter then what was in the car.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    Well I am probably going to use some sort of strap and bolt it into the plastic tray. I don't want to drill holes into metal at this point. This big drycell is 21 pounds, not a lot lighter then what was in the car.
    yeah that was what i meant... i didnt mean drill into the car but into the stock tray and trim the excess tray off to save space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    yeah that was what i meant... i didnt mean drill into the car but into the stock tray and trim the excess tray off to save space.

    Brian
    I don't actually know what this old battery is but it worked well with our tray and OEM clamp and it was a lot smaller. Its standard practice for me to break/cut off any part of the tray that I don't need. I like being able to get my hands in as many places as possible without taking things apart. I also relocate the tray forward from stock position. I originally did that for CAI systems to fit more easily.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    The 91 up cars with the 604 didn't have a speed sensor. They used the output turbine sensor to determine the speed. In order to do that the signal had to go to the TCM and be interpreted and sent back out. I'm assunming from the description the signal was also branched over to the SBEC for the same purpose. To my knowledge in those cars the speedo did not directly receive the signal. Possibly it went to the BCM then to the speedo. I never looked at the newer wiring diagrams and pinouts though.

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    Well, glad the wideband is back in. Apparently even the lowest setting on the G valve with a .25bar Tial spring is too much for the fuel pump (mid/high 13's AFR). Not exactly sure how much boost that is. 6 or so but I am not sure. The BEGI rising rate is cranked down all the way and I also turned in the point of onset just in case it was having problems. AFR was still low/mid 13's.
    Took off the G valve and it dropped to 3.626psi (.25 bar) and then I was able to get 11.8:1 or so AFR. Bye bye powa.

    Not sure whats up with that. Not sure if the cams are just destroying the fuel pumps ability to maintain up top. Interested to see how the new walbro changes things.
    The RRR might not work so well anymore for non insane fuel systems. All that drilling and radiusing that I did might be a problem. Oh the advantages of an in cab fuel pressure gauge that I don't have.

    I am running a 5 speed ecu btw.
    I was videotaping but then the AFR thing killed my fun.


    Best thing that happened was the inner door handle stopped working. .
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    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    when should you have your new walbro? i kinda want to install mine tomorrow if i have the time.. but i also want to compare it to yours

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    Bought my Walbro two fridays ago but it didn't get charged until Wednesday. Lame.

    Music was a bit too loud so I turned it off. I did more pulls after this but I was messing with the tune and not worried about the cam.
    I don't have a proper way to hold the camera. Mini Tripod taped to a 2 foot flat stick. 1 clamp on each post of the passenger head rest holding the stick up. Its worse when deceling.
    Not happy that the camera move back when I hit the gas and missed the gauges.
    Funny thing is I couldn't watch these videos on my computer until I uploaded them and youtube starts hacking up the quality. I can't watch anything but 1080p 60fps unless I convert it to something else. This laptop can't handle it.


    Broken F body on the side of the road, I gave him BOV. That was the only nice part of the drive. He didn't seem happy.
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    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    car sounded nice!

    do i have to run a big return line all the way back to the tank with the wally? i completely forgot about this...

    edit: what about the heater core line? it sits right in the way of the turbo.. and i need heat in this car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundance 6g72 View Post
    what about the heater core line? it sits right in the way of the turbo.. and i need heat in this car.
    I relocated them out of the way as much as possible and then sleeved them with a thermal barrier like this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/THE-14010/ in areas that they were close to exhaust piping...

    Ed Kelly - www.kmperformance.com

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    thanks ED!

    what i was talking about is the steal part that goes from the block to the hose. It seems like its in the way.. but i havnt tried to install the turbo yet so maybe it will fit?

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    I cut part of it off and flipped it backwards I believe.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    I cut mine and mounted it backwards. I tried to find a picture that shows it but this was all I could find. I don't have a turbo, obviously, but I felt like making this change in case I ever did in the future.

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/sam0894q.jpg
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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    alright guys, will do. thanks

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    That coolant tube is one of the things that is better after you modify it. Only thing the modification does is slightly obscure access to the one lower intake bolt, but you can still get it...
    Makes no sense to me why they designed it like that. Luckily the modified route fits perfect with a center trans mounted turbo.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: The Holset he341 3.0L

    im worried about downipe heat

    how well does header wrap work? i have some on they way with my oil lines. Everytime i look under the hood i see my harness in the way of where the downpipe should be. luckily ill be running a 2.5inch downpipe (to keep things simple, the turbo has a 2.5 vband. maybe this will work better for me and not let me boost up right away?? what do you think)

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    looks like the harness is just sitting right under the downpipe and above the rear manifold O.o

    i guess i need to think about how im going to cap the rear exhaust mani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundance 6g72 View Post
    im worried about downipe heat

    how well does header wrap work? i have some on they way with my oil lines. Everytime i look under the hood i see my harness in the way of where the downpipe should be. luckily ill be running a 2.5inch downpipe (to keep things simple, the turbo has a 2.5 vband. maybe this will work better for me and not let me boost up right away?? what do you think)
    Reroute what you can. Use a thermal barrier like I mentioned where you can't. They make a version that velcros on for things like wiring harnesses.

    I have used some on a coolant hose that runs less than two inches from the downpipe and not had a problem so far.

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