lol 15 second turbo car
lol 15 second turbo car
Shhh, you'll stir up the stock T1 owners...
DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!
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Lots of stock t1s run 16s, some run 17s..
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
When i get the van running again, LMK when your going to go to PR again, I'll bring my son out,
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info
Long drive! Longest drive my wife has been on and its only 50 miles for us! Work makes it hard to plan this stuff and then also find time to have a car that can make a pass. I want my Duster racing because racing the baby seat = problems getting home if I break! Tow trucks seat 3 adults. Wife needs a lot of learning before she can follow me down there.
So many slow cars that the stock t1 boys would enjoy themselves to get a win every couple tries! I love knowing I can beat the car next to me when they think I can't.
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info
RR backed off all the way and still being rich made me grumpy so yesterday I backed off the point of onset and turned the rising rate in 1 turn. Now I am mid 11's until near redline when it hit 11.0. Much better. Before it was pig rich then leaning out at redline. That was because fuel pressure was excessively high to start out (before boost even comes up) and then when boost increases (like if I see a little boost creep at redline) the RRR backed off all the way didn't bother adding much fuel.
Finally got some traction in 3rd in a tunnel (stupid rain) on the way home from work. It was dry on the way to work but I had no open stretches. There is another huge event this weekend and I am hoping to avoid working O.T. so I can try to make a pass. No birthday this time but it is my 10 year H.S. reunion that only my wife really wants me to go to but not that much since my friends are not going.
Would like a set of Champion copper 9? heat range (1 range colder then OEM 3.0) spark plugs but I am not sure on a part number. I ran some in the duster that were 2 ranges colder then stock but I can't remember those either.
I guess I will get a set of BPR7ES or 6ES tomorrow if I have time.
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BPR7ES purchased. No time to gap and install before work
Last edited by Ondonti; 06-19-2012 at 04:38 PM.
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
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This is what I hope to be going to on Saturday with a properly running car. With the colder plugs I would like to get a few more pounds of boost in. Would love to run slicks but its a bad idea when I will drive down there with a baby seat and potentially break.
I want to hope to maybe run something over 105mph. Currently about 6-7 psi boost, not sure where I will take it. I don't feel super comfortable with OEM timing and 92 octane even though I have big ring gaps. Motor could probably take 12psi+ on stock 12 degrees stock timing and cold plugs but I never got much data on stock shortblocks with 91 octane when I was at high altitude. Only ran pump on built motor with alky spray.
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
Installed the NGK BPR7ES plugs and then wanted to up the boost a bit and I found that the grainger valve was backed all the way off and on the verge of falling apart. Glad I changed the plugs! If that fell apart I would have had no boost control.
Up to about 8psi right now and I chickened out after that.
The bad news, my last day off was the 10th and I might not get another day off until July. No racing
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
I remember that guy Joe who had a turbo 3.0 acclaim back in the day said he was beating cars that trapped 108 on the street at 8 psi. I think your eventual track trip will be exciting.
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
Up to a solid 10psi boost. Low 11's AFR. Not sure if I want to lean it out. Maybe I will get the time to look at the plugs when I wake up. Hard for me to say how the car is performing because all it feels to me is "not as fast" as I am used to. I had mixed results with trap speeds on the Duster on this kind of boost pressure because of a super low compression oil burner motor along with spark blowout as 3 nozzles of alky turned on with stock plug gaps.
My thoughts are 101mph with ebay turbo on a 5.8psi wastegate spring with AFR pegged below 10 and ignition advanced way too far could provide groundwork. Same car ran 92mph 2 weeks before going turbo.
Using a trap speed HP calculator (not great for trying to get real results but great for comparing the same car at various levels).
2920 pounds n/a 92mph = 154whp
Probably 2960 pounds turbo setup (very conservative) 101.89mph = 212whp (About 10hp/psi)
Car current has a class 2 hitch and I won't be removing seats or the baby seat so I am probably more like 3060 pounds (not sure how much my uhaul hitch weighs). I will also have a tool box in the trunk and other items.
If I can make 10hp/psi boost then 4.2 extra pounds would bring 42whp.
254whp @3060# is 107mph.
This setup probably makes more hp/psi then that ebay turbo so maybe things could look near 110mph! Or be disappointed :P
12whp/psi would bring me up to 274whp and I would need 276whp to get 110mph.
Those are not real dyno numbers but useful for comparison.
Now the reason I think these things can't be used for estimating HP is that take 600 pounds away and get to the Duster's weight and you find meaningless results. Duster did 117mph on 16 pounds of boost and was devastatingly faster then this car but the calculator would tell you it was only making 261 hp while it would say my 3000# car makes all sorts of power when I know the output should be less. Bigger turbo, 6 more pounds of boost, E70. That calculator would say that motor was only gaining 9.5whp per psi from 16 to 22 but even less overall.
Thinking about this is making me question using a calculator to even compare the same car to itself
Last edited by Ondonti; 06-22-2012 at 06:42 AM.
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
154hp sounds right considering i made 147 with a smaller throttle pody and shorter spacers.
I don't see any time in the schedule that is going to line up with me racing this year Sorta happy the big event got rained out today as my work package was completed before I showed up to work but I still have to be here the entire weekend. If I had time to spend the O.T. money on cars I would have some real fun :P
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
Can't spend time here right now but thought I should post that I was in an organized race with an upgraded turbos RS4. Started half a car behind each time cause I didn't really care. Let him have the hit. ~ 55mph roll. Put half a car on him in 3rd, power shifted and gained a full car, then continued to pull through 4th. Was supposed to race some cobra on the way back but Audi (the faster opponent) wouldn't have any of that. Run again and we are both brake boosting so both of us have zero lag. Couldn't hear anything (I was getting a lot of nasty sounds brake boosting) and somehow we left at the same time. Pull back the half car I gave him, power shifted and didn't gain much. Lost half a car in the middle of 4th and then put a half car on him at the top of 4th.
I was done at that point and went back to the meet spot (lots of people/cars there). RS4 wanted to run again but it was obvious to me that he had in cab boost control and wasn't just "rerunning." I said, "I have a fast car and this is kinda boring," and left it at that. The RS4 had $20,000 in mods (not all of them performance I hope) but the guy probably needs to hit the dyno and get someone with a brain to tune it. I could play the up the boost game but the moment I make too much power for 3rd there would be no way I could race an AWD audi. That would make things even more lame. I know the rich kid owner was really heartbroken because he has been beating everyone up and it was the first night out with the new build. He didn't see under my hood but heard people saying they thought I could beat him so he couldn't help his pride from acting out. Sorta nervous about the whole thing since I only knew one person (who invited me and made the challenge). Bought some soda and went home after that as I really didn't enjoy racing without having a real friend around. Something fun about having a buddy around for that stuff. My stomach hurt driving home. I needed to eat but the whole thing made me nervous. Police are all around that area but the spot they race is basically impossible to control so they seem to hang around looking for car thieves or trouble makers. Weird. I didn't like seeing the police but apparently it was normal.
Baby seat + trailer hitch + holset 1
RS4 0
Hoping to somehow avoid working on the 18th because there is a test and tune in Bremerton. Supposed to be doing my book learning when not at work so forums are out :P
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
hahaha. Just imagine their faces if this was a few years back and you brought out the duster. LOOL
Or.....
DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!
LOL, hilarious pic, sundance.
Dont push the red button.You hear me?