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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Alright ... here is what I have Reaper1... (everything held in place with hot glue )



    The wire on the back near the taillight frames what will be the end of the flare and the size of the vent opening...







    Here is the mess I have now on the inside.






    The idea is to end at the existing quarter panel and work a vent up from there around the strut tower...


    Then once that is done then... I dunno.. What do you think will work best for the wheelhouse? Got any suggestions on how to let them breath without making rust traps???

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Seeing as I'm a total sucker for composite stuff, I'd make the wheelhouse liners out of fiberglass and then use a combination of screws and body seam sealer to hold them in. This may sound kind of "hoky", but they'd be light, removable, repairable, wouldn't corrode, and fairly easy to make. You could make the "mold" out of chicken wire and use that as a backing support as well.

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Seeing as I'm a total sucker for composite stuff, I'd make the wheelhouse liners out of fiberglass and then use a combination of screws and body seam sealer to hold them in. This may sound kind of "hoky", but they'd be light, removable, repairable, wouldn't corrode, and fairly easy to make. You could make the "mold" out of chicken wire and use that as a backing support as well.
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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Yeah, this would be a good starting point!

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Made a tiny bit of progress... But I think it is coming along nicely....


    I have really been thinking about the wheelhouses... and if I can tie the quarter and the daytona wheelhouse sections together... Heck... I have been in and out of the plastics industry for years... and a guy down the street vacuum molds thermo setting plastics all the time...

    I won't "cheat" on the outside... but maybe... hummm......







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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    WOW!! I am digging how that is coming together! Makes me want to break out the cutting wheel and welder! LOL

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Yeah, that's looks really good! I love how the Shelby sticker sits right inside the side scoop.

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Now that is sweet

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Yeah looks really good man, nice job...will be neat to see this thing pull the front wheels!
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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Quote Originally Posted by blk86trbo View Post
    Yeah looks really good man, nice job...will be neat to see this thing pull the front wheels!
    "Turbo Under Glass" ???

    Since I already have the rusty L body floor pans to deal with up front... I will be able to see where I am going...



    Run a 10 on the back wheels...



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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Mkay, I've just kinda been lurking and following along but the last set of pics prompted me to post some questions.

    Did you make a final decision on the powerplant? (hmm, 450HP 16V four vs 500 HP big block)

    Is this a drag only go-as-fast-as-you-can rig or blvd cruiser that can also kick arse?

    Are you working on this thing full time? You said you made a little progress on the last set of pics but it looks like 25 hrs of bodywork to me

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    A Blvd cruiser with LOTS of bite.. and plenty capable of handling its own on the autoX or road course... wherever I end up.... Just something I always wanted to build and never got around to building.. I wanted a nice charger and kept running into rust.. So If figured.. what the heck.. If I have to cut half the damn car apart anyway to fix rust or other issues..... Why not put it back together the right way..




    The Masi motor was just a big stroke of luck, and the tipping point for going ahead with the project... The original idea for power was going to be a 2.5/2.4 hybrid.. Sure.. I could cut up the body and drop it on a tube frame with a big ole V8.. boring... (ok not really but you get my point) It just has been done to many times... Somewhere in the thread I linked to an integra a guy converted to a mid rear setup... I love that car.. He just needs more power... and after this fall and I have a bit more budget to work with... finishing it off so it looks like a real car instead of just a race car is totally in the plans...

    All these guys on here trying to build "streetable" 10 second cars... I plan to do that... as well as be able to hit the autoX and go for a country drive...


    But for now...... I am still totally on track to have it up and running well for less than a 2011 dollar budget...


    Typically get from 9pm after the kids are to bed till about 11 each night to goof off... sometimes I can squeeze an hour in the middle of day... and the weekends are up for grabs... Sometime they are mine.. sometimes not.


    Not counting hours upon hours of research time.. I am probably 40 hours into actual working time on the project... Although... If I should ever need to do this again.. It could go MUCH faster.... But I am in no real hurry... and won't rush things... I have so much fun out there.... My little flaring job on the side makes me smile every time I see it..




    Just got a little done tonight.. Cut all the rusty thrash out of that side.. Made all the templates for the wheelhouse... and have that side scoop looking frign awesome... I promise pics when it is done... Right now the quarter is laying on the floor getting the final tweaks... (that "hot glue" trick my dad talked me into works awesome... using the hot glue designed for paint-less dent removal to temporarily hold panels in place....) and I couldn't deal with it... the dang gas filler hole plug heat shrunk a bit to much.. So I cut it out and welded a new section in.... Working with all steel takes some time... But bondo ain't in this budget...

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    To many distractions tonight... but here are some better quality pictures of the progress anyway..







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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Love it! The side scoop looks really good. I'm not sure that i'm sold on the rear vent, I need to see it with paint. Any idea how many extra inches the flares give you for tire clearance?

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Looks good. Ive been toying with the idea of doing this to my rampage, but with a boosted 3.0

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    Not a TM but a cool site on a Mid engine conversion on a Integra I had saved on my Favorites. It has alot of pics and info. I thought it was pretty cool.
    http://www.team-integra.net/forum/19...onversion.html

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    Oh yeah... That integra is a really really neat garage build.. I wasted enough time over the last couple months to read that whole thread

    Here is a link to just the pictures...

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...SA/GSRProject/


    And just for kicks.. just a couple more of my favorites for whatever reason...

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2970226

    http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1266033

    http://www.kimini.com/index.html

    This... is a really cool site... http://zcars.org.uk/index.php

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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    I always feel like I didn't get a lot done.. and it was frign hot today in KC.. it 91 degrees.. i wish I had gone sailing.. 30+ mph winds all day today.. I didn't go because the lake surface temp just hit 50 degrees.. and I didn't count on the air temp getting that high... Oh well... I had a little fun anyway... Like I said.. didn't get a lot done... and sure didn't feel like bodywork... So I hammered one of these out...


    First.. Start with some old metal shelving.. and a cardboard template..




    Then... a little cutting.. and tack some steel rod into place...




    Then apply hammer and a flattened out cold chisel... and beat the snot out of the thing....






    Finally... a little cursing.. some trimming... remove the tacks holding the steel rod.. some clamping... a few temporary sheet metal screws..... a few more whacks with a hammer......

    and end up here...








    With a coat of truck bed liner, or similar type of undercoating, I tink dat will do just fine donkey...
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    Love this project man cant wait to see it done! Keep up the great progress
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    Re: Mid Engine Charger...

    Quote Originally Posted by vipernbox View Post



    With a coat of truck bed liner, or similar type of undercoating, I tink dat will do just fine donkey...
    Help me out here, what am I looking at that took so much time to fabricate?

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