Mid Engine Charger...

[vipernbox]

So...


Anyway.... With all this junk laying around...




I had ought to be able to make something happen


Right????

[GLHNSLHT2]

wanna sell the a/c setup?

[vipernbox]

wanna sell the a/c setup?

Maybe... depending on how this all turns out.. After October it might get hooked up...

[vipernbox]

And so the cutting begins..

[rx2mazda]

This should be a fun project! I do miss my RWD.

[Turbo224]

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[Shadow]

Was gonna do this 10+ years ago! Although, not with the Massi mtr! Was gonna make a rear engine S/C with TII P/T. Then, when it was completly set-up I was going to drop the other TII P/T back in the front. AWD, twin P/T 800WHP BABY!

Of course I'll never get around to doing it now, so next best thing is seeing others do it!

GOOD LUCK! Look forward to seeing it come together!

[shadow88]

Was gonna do this 10+ years ago! Although, not with the Massi mtr! Was gonna make a rear engine S/C with TII P/T. Then, when it was completly set-up I was going to drop the other TII P/T back in the front. AWD, twin P/T 800WHP BABY!

Of course I'll never get around to doing it now, so next best thing is seeing others do it!


GOOD LUCK! Look forward to seeing it come together!

This is something I'm still thinking of doing with my shadow. Did you get to any drawings or sketches?

[roachjuice]

that engine wont work. you need to sell it to me for 100 dollars and ill be there tomorrow to pick it up.

[Bardo]

This is either be cool or cool to watch fail either way glwtb

[Shadow]

This is something I'm still thinking of doing with my shadow. Did you get to any drawings or sketches?

Prob a couple kicking around here. The twin turbo project has a couple files full of drawings and ideas I had. Actually made changes as Gary was proving stuff out back in the day.

Deff along the same lines as what vipernbox is doing. (or at least I think he's doing) Welding the entire E/C frame and mounting locations to the rear of the car and then bolt everything in and go!

[vipernbox]

Well.. If I was starting this one again from right now I would trim back more steel right from the start.. I have been just nibbling at it trying to leave as much as possible...


But anyway...


Front to back it is set pretty close to where it needs to be.. Still needs to come up a bit... but I cut just a fraction to wide (on purpose) at the strut towers and that is all that is holding it now from fitting right on in there... At the moment it is trimmed just to the edge of where the outer frame rail laps the strut tower in the daytona... and the Charger basically just got the wheel wells removed and the extra lip hammer flat for now... Cut like that... the whole thing is maybe 3/16" to wide to just slip right into place.... The Charger has a very nice flat and square area to work with right there... Ya gota love that..


Right now the plan is to weld it in place just like it would sit in the front of a daytona... I am thinking I could tilt it a tiny bit to get some anti squat geometry going on????? Really even at this point I am a long way from whipping out the welder...

Oh.. and the frame rails for the bumper supports on a daytona... They slip exactly b/t the frame at the suspension mounting points on the Charger... Boxing that together is going to be a breeze...

[Turbo224]

All I know is that i'm going to be very disappointed if this turns into another one of those projects that never gets finished. Keep up the good work!!

[vipernbox]

A couple higher resolution shots... ( I have lots of them.. the ones from my phone load up easier so I will post them more often.. If you want to see anything specific just let me know.. I keep the Nikon busy )


and whada ya think of these wheels...






Once it is all the way in place the inner fender/quarter should line up darn near perfect.

[Shadow]

OK nice! I was going to say something about the pic quality, but I was thinking something is better than nothing. Much better now

[shadow88]

Prob a couple kicking around here. The twin turbo project has a couple files full of drawings and ideas I had. Actually made changes as Gary was proving stuff out back in the day.

Deff along the same lines as what vipernbox is doing. (or at least I think he's doing) Welding the entire E/C frame and mounting locations to the rear of the car and then bolt everything in and go!

Could you send them along to shadowman1518@hotmail.com please? My thoughts were to do a completely different rear subframe based on the k-frame and installed from underneath.

[vipernbox]

I seriously considered that. But you will still have to alter/move the frame rails to make room for the transmission then mirror that on the engine side. So you don't get to keep the factory rear frame rails anyway. Then build strut towers. Motor mounts Ect ect ect.

I really considered it. Just hanging the k frame would be a breeze. But all the rest of the stuff adds up, and there is already enough stuff to fabricate for me to want to worry about fabricating stuff to mount stock stuff in the stock location.

I could see doing it if you were going to build custom suspension. But short of that I couldn't make any sense of it


Heck even with the 'stock' stuff I am leaving everything open to where I could possibly use the old L body rear suspension mount to fabricate kinda a 'modified mcpherson strut setup like the MR2 or the Boxster use. . This won't happen tomorrow but what the heck right?

[BadAssPerformance]

All I know is that i'm going to be very disappointed if this turns into another one of those projects that never gets finished. Keep up the good work!!

Ditto.. a few of those out there.

NEAT PROJECT!

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[vipernbox]

Ok... So hang some pedals and and mount the seat... Then this project is all wrapped up...













Naw...



But I do have a couple questions.. I think I am going to install this thing just off level.. Giving myself just a tiny bit of anti-squat geometry... the caster if it needs addressed for any weird reason can be fixed with plates later...

But anyway... Trying to set the height and wheel base... Set like it is in the picture below at full drop I have about four inches to the wheel well from the top of a 205/50... The daytona struts have about 6 inches of travel.. ... The front to back location I think is just behind where the wheel would sit in its standard setup... (forgot to measure that one.) It would allow a 26 inch tall tire to fit pretty easy if there ever was a need for that...

Tomorrow I will pull a daytona in the shop and make sure the 'natural' position is centered in the strut travel...


So whada ya'll think? And could someone measure the gap b/t the tire and the quarter on a SC that is at stock ride height for me... (of all the silly things to forget to measure.)


It is a lot of fun to "lower" a car like this...

[Shadow]

Man I saw that first pic and post and was really hoping you were going to mount the seat on the bumper and drive it down the track from the rear!