Tubular K-frames now available

[Reeves]

Well if it was stock, I'd leave it in but modified, everything gets in the way,

Like what?

[rx2mazda]

When we did my clutch, we didn't touch the K-frame. Came out/in pretty easy.(thats what she said.....to Reeves)

[Reeves]

When we did my clutch, we didn't touch the K-frame. Came out/in pretty easy.(thats what she said.....to Reeves)

I didn't say you HAD to remove the K-frame.....I just think it's much easier.

[turbovanman²]

Like what?

The IC piping and I moved the rad so with all that done, I couldn't turn/tilt the trans enough to clear it all as now it being jammed against that and the K-member. I've done them stock as its doable but I am also lazy, lol.

["Top Fuel" Bender]

If you have room to run a straight shaft thru you could do something like this

http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybars.htm

you could make different dia mounts to hold the sway bar to change bar dia.
and different length arms/multiple mounting locations to change rates

of course there is much cheaper options then above

[puppet]

If you have room to run a straight shaft thru you could do something like this

http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybars.htm

you could make different dia mounts to hold the sway bar to change bar dia.
and different length arms/multiple mounting locations to change rates

of course there is much cheaper options then above

I like this ... looks to me that with their mounts you don't need to change anything when swapping bars.

[johnl]

Ditto on tubular A arms. Just might buy one.

[RoadWarrior222]

What I'm wondering now, is if this would make enough room on a 3.0 to run proper headers.

[Juggy]

the K frame done really interfere unless your trying to pull the trans with the bobble strut/bracket still mounted!
thats def the deal breaker lol

[turbo2point2]

It might also be worth thinking about how the tubular kframe changes the airflow under the car. The factory went so far as to add air deflectors to try and get some air up to cool the turbo from under the car. The tubular frame will change that a bit more. Putting a flat plate of thin steel on the bottom might actually help the under car aerodynamics.

What are the rules for using tubular frames at the track? Do they require certified welds?

-Rich

I'll leave any aerodynamics or addition of sheet metal up to the end user. I won' t bury myself in trying to make that stuff work.

I have yet to see a rule where you could not run a tube K-frame. No weld certification needed.

[neonturbo]

Hi All,

I have decided to bring my tubular K-frames to market. This design is what is currently on my Shadow. I built a jig with the ability to produce both L-body and also P,G,J,K frames as well.

Have you thought about checking to see if the Neon K-member is the same size? It might expand your market.

If you could post dimensions between body to K-member mounting points I could measure the Neon to see if it would bolt on. It would require a control arm swap, but I think the dual pivots will work on a Neon.

[turbo2point2]

I spoke with a person at the compay that Bruce linked to http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybars.htm I priced out a 1" solid sway bar, 2 pillow blocks, 2 30 degree arms, and 2 locating collars the total was $260. All else that would be needed to install the sway bar would be some rod ends to connect to the LCA, prob. $40-$50. Since trying to find an OEM sway bar that has aftermarket support and that would fit our needs is probably an endless journey, I think this is the best route for those wanting a sway bar option on the K-frame.

Update, thanks to Mike Marra for lending me the correct mount for the 5 speed. There is a bit more room around the trans. Still might not be enough to remove the trans without dropping the frame though.

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Have you thought about checking to see if the Neon K-member is the same size? It might expand your market.

If you could post dimensions between body to K-member mounting points I could measure the Neon to see if it would bolt on. It would require a control arm swap, but I think the dual pivots will work on a Neon.

I'll get the dimensions on here, but I don't think it would even be close. Moday will be the next time I'm in the shop, I'll post them up tnen.

[turbovanman²]

Have you thought about checking to see if the Neon K-member is the same size? It might expand your market.

If you could post dimensions between body to K-member mounting points I could measure the Neon to see if it would bolt on. It would require a control arm swap, but I think the dual pivots will work on a Neon.

Its different, IIRC, alot different.

[RoadWarrior222]

Probably even if they had it working perfect in dual pivot format, they couldn't have it look anything the same on a Neon, otherwise it would have been. "Chrysler introduces jelly mould tarted over K-car" ....

[neonturbo]

Its different, IIRC, alot different.

Actually first gen are very very similar. Squint a little and you see sort of a blend of the early stub strut, and the dual pivot.



I don't have a K base car as a reference for measuring. Many of us Neon guys are pretty serious about drag racing, and autocross.

[rbryant]

Actually first gen are very very similar. Squint a little and you see sort of a blend of the early stub strut, and the dual pivot.



I don't have a K base car as a reference for measuring. Many of us Neon guys are pretty serious about drag racing, and autocross.

I think you could probably adapt the Neon kframe into our cars with a little work but I don't see where it is any better than our 91+ kframes.

I breifly considered modifying Neon frames for my dual pivot lbody frame setup.

-Rich

[Shadow]

I think you could probably adapt the Neon kframe into our cars with a little work but I don't see where it is any better than our 91+ kframes.

I breifly considered modifying Neon frames for my dual pivot lbody frame setup.

-Rich

I don't think that's what he was asking.

[neonturbo]

I don't think that's what he was asking.

Correct. I want this sweet tube frame in my Neon. I bet there would be quite a few that would use this if we knew it fit. The Neon suspension setup sucks. (IMO)

This would also save a bunch of weight, especially in the heavy front, and that is important for any performance vehicle.

[RoadWarrior222]

Yeah, CF hood and front clip, relocate battery to trunk, tube K frame and you can break slicks loose at idle all day.

[BadAssPerformance]

I spoke with a person at the compay that Bruce linked to http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybars.htm I priced out a 1" solid sway bar, 2 pillow blocks, 2 30 degree arms, and 2 locating collars the total was $260. All else that would be needed to install the sway bar would be some rod ends to connect to the LCA, prob. $40-$50. Since trying to find an OEM sway bar that has aftermarket support and that would fit our needs is probably an endless journey, I think this is the best route for those wanting a sway bar option on the K-frame. .

Does Johnny have any that could work? Depending on leverage ratios and geometry and if soemoen plans to road race, they may be looking for 1.25" or bigger bars?