Tubular K-frames now available

[wheming]

Is anyone using this on a daily driver/weekend racer?

Longterm impressions/review?
This has been on my radar since first seeing that custom part.
And again, super work Brian!



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[16valvecharger]

Is anyone using this on a daily driver/weekend racer?

Longterm impressions/review?
This has been on my radar since first seeing that custom part.
And again, super work Brian!



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I think Shadow is using this on his Charger. It is a street car.

[fishcleaner]

I don't know if they are going to be made again, but if you have the money get it, you know it won't crack like the factory ones and you have more room underneath, makes changing a rack easy. Here is my review

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...yant&highlight=

I am working on a small anti-swaybar now for it, I figure something is better than nothing

[Shadow]

Is anyone using this on a daily driver/weekend racer?

Longterm impressions/review?
This has been on my radar since first seeing that custom part.
And again, super work Brian!



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I've had this piece along with DJ's A-arms in the Charger for just over a year now. Took a 1700km trip a few weeks back with my wife and 6-700lbs in the back of the Charger. Car drove awesome, both there (loaded) and back (unloaded).

I said it when I first reviewed this piece, it has completly revolutionized the car. I originaly bought it for the drag race benefits, but I believe the benefits on the street in the pure comfort and "feel", (specially over rough roads that use to just Suck having to drive over) far out-weight the benefits just on the track.

[depenbrok]

Can I have Carroll's since he's in the deadbeat file? Lol

[gkabbt]

I don't know if they are going to be made again, but if you have the money get it, you know it won't crack like the factory ones and you have more room underneath, makes changing a rack easy. Here is my review

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...yant&highlight=

I am working on a small anti-swaybar now for it, I figure something is better than nothing

When I was there last week, Brian said he was going to make some more but it would be the 1st part of next year.
Lucky for me he had 1 left. Now, I just need DJ's control arms to complete my front suspension trifecta.....like you fishcleaner.


Eric,
The work Brian has done on your car is incredible. Very, very nice.

Gregg

[wheming]

Well if DJ goes back into the control arm business, and Brian makes more next year, maybe these would make good Christmas 2013 presents for Slugmobile!



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[depenbrok]

Thanks Gregg! Would you expect anything less from the Master Fabricator Brian Slowe?

[GLHSHELBY]

still watching and wanting one also,I gotta have a anti-swaybar though.Next year around march will be great timing for me.Not really wanting it for drag racing just to help balance things out

[iTurbo]

I've been looking into this too. Early next year would be a lot better timing wise for me. I hope another run of control arms will be made to compliment the K-frame though, and some kind of sway bar provision would be nice.

[Shadow]

I was hoping to take the Charger around the local road course this year, but won't get the chance. Maybe a video next year to give some of you an idea of how stable this car is now with out a sway bar.

Any thought of the Charger needing a swaybar has left me. I actually look at sway bars now as a "band-aid fix" for poor suspension

[Pat]

Any thought of the Charger needing a swaybar has left me. I actually look at sway bars now as a "band-aid fix" for poor suspension

Eh, I wouldn't say that...all depends on the weight of the car, the lateral grip it has, spring rates, how agressive of an alignment it has, what the rear is doing/rear set up, etc. With enough spring and not enough tire or neg camber, no bar may be needed. The tires let go before the car really starts to lean over. Throw some fat r compounds on it with reasonable/streetable springs and give it an agressive alignment and some bar certainly is a benefit.

For your car set up to your liking, a bar might not be needed and that's great. Might perform just fine for what you are looking for in the corners. For someone else with a different car set up to their likings, a bar could certainly be a valuable piece.

[zin]

I agree with a sway bar being something of a "band-aid" for an unbalanced car regarding spring rates, but it is alot easier to tune a bar than try a bunch of springs, unless you have coil-overs.

We are severely limited on spring choices in the stock location these days. This and tire clearance is a big motivating factor in my desire to go coil-over...

Mike

[Shadow]

Agree with both of you. As always, I prob came across very cut and dry/ hot and cold, gotta learn to be more "luke warm" when writing this stuff! lol

Heavier car, deff different situation. Guess all I can really say is I'm happy with things the way they are, but results may vary............

[zin]

Nothing wrong with having a strong opinion, people just have to "grow a skin", and not get but-hurt when someone disagrees, there are, more often than not, "more than one way to skin a cat"...

Funny thing is, back when the Firebirds were just coming out, John DeLorean felt strongly the same way, that anti-roll bars were a cop out to proper springs... In the end I think he lost that argument, no doubt due to practicalities/costs, not engineering.

To each their own, if it works for you, it's the way to go!

Mike

[fishcleaner]

I can back Shadow up, with the tubular K-frame and A-arms the car handles much better than stock with a sway bar and who knows how much weight was saved, 100lbs.? The autoX course
had 2 sweeping 180* turns and I could see a benefit of a swaybar there. I'm going to try a small one and if it doesn't work, I'll take it off.

[rx2mazda]

When I was there last week, Brian said he was going to make some more but it would be the 1st part of next year.
Lucky for me he had 1 left. Now, I just need DJ's control arms to complete my front suspension trifecta.....like you fishcleaner.


Eric,
The work Brian has done on your car is incredible. Very, very nice.

Gregg

Can I have Carroll's since he's in the deadbeat file? Lol

Too late Eric, Brian sold mine to Greg!

[168glhs1986]

Guess it wasn't yours then, lol.

[GLHNSLHT2]

I was hoping to take the Charger around the local road course this year, but won't get the chance. Maybe a video next year to give some of you an idea of how stable this car is now with out a sway bar.

Any thought of the Charger needing a swaybar has left me. I actually look at sway bars now as a "band-aid fix" for poor suspension

and your spring rates are???????

I can back Shadow up, with the tubular K-frame and A-arms the car handles much better than stock with a sway bar and who knows how much weight was saved, 100lbs.? The autoX course
had 2 sweeping 180* turns and I could see a benefit of a swaybar there. I'm going to try a small one and if it doesn't work, I'll take it off.

Just because the car is stiffer, and the suspension isn't flexing as much doesn't mean you don't need a sway bar. Sway bars are one more way to tune the suspension and balance of the car. If you think they're a band aid fix then go tell the F1 guys that their suspension is poor. Compensating with huge spring rates just hurts mechanical/lateral grip. What's flexing? the springs or your car?

[Shadow]

and your spring rates are???????



Just because the car is stiffer, and the suspension isn't flexing as much doesn't mean you don't need a sway bar. Sway bars are one more way to tune the suspension and balance of the car. If you think they're a band aid fix then go tell the F1 guys that their suspension is poor. Compensating with huge spring rates just hurts mechanical/lateral grip. What's flexing? the springs or your car?

My front springs are 350"lbs, but you'd Never know if you drove in the car. Ride quality they feel like 185's, but they respond 500% better on dips and bumps because of the hiem joint a-arms and the Fact that the pro lift is allowing the springs to do more of the work, not the joints/arms ect.

F1? Nice comparo! lol Lets try to keep this one apples to apples eh!

I'm comparing the Charger from what it was before (one of if not THE best "feeling" L-body I ever drove) to what it is now, Way better than it ever was before! lol

What F1 guys do I could give a $hit. I'm only interested in what difference this had made to the Charger.

I went from urathane bushings with stock k-frame, swaybar, a-arms and 250"lb springs to this k-frame, DJ's heim joint A-arms, No swaybar and 350"lb springs and
the difference is night and day.

If I could auto-cross the old Charger (and I know I could as many out there auto cross with stock components) I would DESTROY it with the new Charger!

Nuff said