The USB Device datalog guide

[risen]

Is there anyway in logworks to make the O2 sensor reading translte the 0-5 volt range to AFR? I am wondering because if you are tuning your car and you disable o2 feedback, you can input 0-5 volts on the original O2 sensor wire to the ecu. Then it would show up through the sci cable since the cpu input is still 0-5v even though the narrowband is only 0-1v. It would only work if you diasable o2 feedback though because the ecu wouldnt be able to translate it but if you are running a wideband other than lc1 or your old laptop only has 1 usb port this would be nice.

The point of using logworks in the 1st place is that it will read the output of your wideband digitally. If you're using an innovate device and datalogging from the ECU there's no point to hooking the analog output to the ECU.

[shackwrrr]

The point of using logworks in the 1st place is that it will read the output of your wideband digitally. If you're using an innovate device and datalogging from the ECU there's no point to hooking the analog output to the ECU.

I dont have an LC-1, and my wideband is not compatable with logworks. I have a Techedge and it also has a flaky HIN202 serial chip so serial interface only lasts about 10 min and then you are screwed untill the next day when it cools down. I had an LC-1, it died before I even installed the sensor.

[Aries_Turbo]

what techedge version do you have? can you remove the hin202 and replace it with a max232.

Brian

[shackwrrr]

what techedge version do you have? can you remove the hin202 and replace it with a max232.

Brian

I could but its buried in the dash and I would like to datalog it all with one usb cord and tune with one usb. Instead of datalog with a usb/serial.

[Aries_Turbo]

you cant do that anyway.... well at least if you want full datalogging capabilities.

the whole reason for the plugin is so that the datalogs are combined into one log that is synched together even though there are 2 serial/usb connections with wideband data and stuff like knock values.

if you replace the HIN202 (is it a bad HIN202 in your unit or is the HIN202 not a good device to begin with???) and use one of these

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ET-800P&cpc=SCH

you may be able to get Keith to update his winlog plugin to work with the later computers and have a USB from the computer and usb from the TE unit and be closer to your goal of all USB cables and less of them.

or you can sell your TE unit to me and get something thats compatible with the logworks plugin.

Brian

[shackwrrr]

If I park the spirit for a while to renew the engine and clean it up I might be interested in selling the TE. Ive had my eyes on an MTX-L

The Hin202 is a crappy chip to begin with, There are plenty of people on TE's forums that are also having issues. Just like the LC-1 though, plenty of people are killing those because they use cheap chips and they can't take the heat. Thats why I like the New MTX because its all in the gauge.

I could datalog with the TechEdge but I would only have RPM, TPS, MAP, and AFR. I tried it but as soon as you hook up the RPM its just too noisy to read anything.

[Aries_Turbo]

what version do you have?

mine datalogs RPM and everything flawlessly.

but mine is an older DIY 2A0.

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just found this about the HIN202

http://wbo2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1709

Brian

[shackwrrr]

what version do you have?

mine datalogs RPM and everything flawlessly.

but mine is an older DIY 2A0.



---------- Post added at 09:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:35 AM ----------

just found this about the HIN202

http://wbo2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1709

Brian

my kit came with the hin202 chip and a remember that there was an added jumper I had to do so I am guessing that is what i had to do. Mine is the 2Y1.

I didnt understand the noise either. I am pretty sure it was hooked up to the line that goes to the tach in the dash too which should be a fairly clean square wave anyway.

[risen]

you cant do that anyway.... well at least if you want full datalogging capabilities.

the whole reason for the plugin is so that the datalogs are combined into one log that is synched together even though there are 2 serial/usb connections with wideband data and stuff like knock values.

if you replace the HIN202 (is it a bad HIN202 in your unit or is the HIN202 not a good device to begin with???) and use one of these

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ET-800P&cpc=SCH

you may be able to get Keith to update his winlog plugin to work with the later computers and have a USB from the computer and usb from the TE unit and be closer to your goal of all USB cables and less of them.

or you can sell your TE unit to me and get something thats compatible with the logworks plugin.

Brian

Once the logworks plugin is done the winlog is up next. Since I'm making the code to handle ECU comms more modular for logworks the winlog should come pretty shortly after. Though, you're probably still looking at a year from now for winlog.

The Hin202 is a crappy chip to begin with, There are plenty of people on TE's forums that are also having issues. Just like the LC-1 though, plenty of people are killing those because they use cheap chips and they can't take the heat. Thats why I like the New MTX because its all in the gauge.

I know I've said this before, but I have 2 LC-1's one on the CSX one on the Omni. Both are mounted on the firewall near the top and they've been very reliable. I don't understand how they get killed so easily since both of mine have been so good.

[shackwrrr]

Once the logworks plugin is done the winlog is up next. Since I'm making the code to handle ECU comms more modular for logworks the winlog should come pretty shortly after. Though, you're probably still looking at a year from now for winlog.



I know I've said this before, but I have 2 LC-1's one on the CSX one on the Omni. Both are mounted on the firewall near the top and they've been very reliable. I don't understand how they get killed so easily since both of mine have been so good.

Must have been a bad batch. I just tossed mine in a box and never even sent it in.

[Force Fed Mopar]

About to order this, so let me verify - I can just buy this cable:

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...R7DtM6b7hTwLVv

and that is all I need for the serial to usb conversion?

[mark]

YES, you can get that cable, or the chip with the mini-usb connection on it. they are basically the same thing.

[Force Fed Mopar]

YES, you can get that cable, or the chip with the mini-usb connection on it. they are basically the same thing.

Gotcha, thanks.

[89ShelbyGuy]

Ok...back to datalogging problems..i will post my problem on here...

I got everything set up on my fresh windows xp installed laptop..i only have the datalogging software on it...i boot it all up...and get the logging going...after a random time...between 30 seconds and 2 minutes the logging on the plugin will stop..but the logworks will still keep going....i set my timeout to 1 and 2 for port setting on the ftdi chip i have. I am only logging 4 things plus the wideband.

I was thinking about it last night...but if my cpu can't keep up..you think the plugin would timeout and stop? i will have to see what my pc is running..

Anyone else have this problem? any settings they changed?

Tom

[zin]

Has this made it into the KC?

Mike

[StraX22]

Thanks for the great writeup!

Here's a PDF I created from the OP if anyone is interested.

The USB Device datalog guide.zip

[Force Fed Mopar]

So I'm trying to get this setup, got to setting up the ports, but I don't see the ports in Device Manager? Do you have to have the cable hooked up in the car to do this?

[RoadWarrior222]

Good idea on the .pdf, I can just stick it on my reader when I'm into it.

I picked up a cheapy cable, was looking it up and stumbled across this...
http://www.davesdrivers.com/forum/sh...d.php?tid=1846

Which might offer some useful insight for other cables with the same chip.... (Not showing up as com port, but as HID device instead)

[Force Fed Mopar]

Ah, so it may be listed as Human Interface Device instead of Ports? I see that in the list, but when I go to properties it just shows driver info, no port settings.

[RoadWarrior222]

Yah, first check it isn't your mouse or keyboard, then update driver and force it to take the USB serial port driver.... then when it's recognised as a com port you can set port etc.