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    Re: I went from this, to this!

    Fiero is sort of a Fiat X19 knock off, so there's two Dodge connections - Reinaldo being the 1st.
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    I keep thinking an 88 fiero rear cradle would look awesome under the rear of a Shelby Charger (or something along those lines..)

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    Re: I went from this, to this!

    rear engine rampage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    It's cars like these that make wish I was a little bit smaller. Friend in highschool had one and I liked it but we needed a the jaws of life to get me in and out of it. Check this kit car out http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/lambo...item4cf473e887
    I would never do something like that to my car, but some people may think different and I respect that. You better say you love your wife after that threat! Lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDollar69 View Post
    I think you mean an iron dook. I had nothing but trouble with every one of them I ever owned. I used to pull a bunch of duke heads when I worked at a salvage yard, and it seemed like most of them had cracked heads. I'm not sure if they are like the mopar heads where the cracks might not mean its bad but we had a policy to never sell a head with cracks.
    Those motors were bullet proof if you looked after them and the only issue they really had was cracking exhaust manifolds, poor head bolt metalurgy that would break off during normal use and, noisey timing gears. They got insane MPG too,


    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    A W41 HO quad 4 would be interesting...

    There was an unreleased turbo variant, dunno if there's enough detail on that to replicate it, or whether it was a bunch of fail.

    Edit: but then there's finding one. One of the few GMs I'd have as a keeper* is an Old Acheiva SCX with one of those in, or a 442 Calais... btw they had an LSD in, will have to look at that sometime...

    (* Yeah I'd like a fiero too, or anything with a buick 3.8 or the mid 90s fullsize caprice/roadmaster/fleetwood with the LS motor.)
    Quad 4's rock, I miss mine, Now with Cometic doing custom gaskets for a reasonable price, you could fix that issue, turbo it and hold in,

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnl View Post
    Fiero is sort of a Fiat X19 knock off, so there's two Dodge connections - Reinaldo being the 1st.
    I wouldn't call it a knock-off, it was GM's answer to the X19, lol.
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    why not use the typhoon supercharged 4.3 in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Those motors were bullet proof if you looked after them and the only issue they really had was cracking exhaust manifolds, poor head bolt metalurgy that would break off during normal use and, noisey timing gears. They got insane MPG too,
    Yeah.... sounds awesome and bullet proof to me.... you forgot to add rod knock to the mix.


    Quad 4's rock, I miss mine, Now with Cometic doing custom gaskets for a reasonable price, you could fix that issue, turbo it and hold in,
    Another GM mistake... next thing you're going to tell us, Simon, is that the Chevy Blazer is a rock solid and dependable vehicle minus the injector spider issues, leaking intake manifold issues, poor ball joints, etc....

    No wonder you're attracted to the T-III
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    How would he really know though, he makes his wife suffer it
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    Quote Originally Posted by picklesgarage View Post
    why not use the typhoon supercharged 4.3 in there?
    they were turbocharged. not supercharged.

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    Re: I went from this, to this!

    doesnt get you much of anything over an easier 3.8 swap.

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    Re: I went from this, to this!

    If you are talking about the road course in kershaw, I would love to head out there in the omni sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Directconnection View Post
    Yeah.... sounds awesome and bullet proof to me.... you forgot to add rod knock to the mix.




    Another GM mistake... next thing you're going to tell us, Simon, is that the Chevy Blazer is a rock solid and dependable vehicle minus the injector spider issues, leaking intake manifold issues, poor ball joints, etc....

    No wonder you're attracted to the T-III
    Yeah, buy a Durango instead!!!

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    The 2.5 can be built to make some good power for such an old design, actually. The quad in one would be interesting with the 5 speed. I wonder what kind of mileage that would get???
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    Stick with the 60 degree and eventually go with the 3400 swap. Many people think the 3800 is the sh*t but in reality a 3400 outflows, outperforms, outruns a 3800 n/a. Try going on the V6Z24 forums bringing up a 3.8SC swap you will get flogged and it's quite funny. Take the supercharger away from the 3.8 and you have a weaksauce engine. Put a super/turbo charger on the 3400 and it will produce better numbers than the 3.8sc. There is a reason GM axed the 3800 series engine. There have been 3400 powered cars that reached the 12's N/A . I wish I could find the picture of someone who photo-shopped the 3800 into the Fred Flintstone Flip mobile haha. There have been guys who swapped in 3400s into Cavalier Z24s and are in the low 14s/ high 13's with mild mods. It gets you plenty of everything over a 3800 swap. Here is a video of one running 6psi vs a everyone's beloved 3800 on 17 psi. The videos that follow are also turbocharged, they are a very boost friendly engine.

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    a 3400 gt grand am top end is a popular swap onto the top of a 3.4 f-body. saposed to make them flow like crazy

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    Cool, I like the Fieros too. You could find a 3.1 Turbo GTP/Cutlass engine and drop in it But really I'd probably go late-model 3400, and either turbo when the power got to be not enough (which it inevitably would ), or high-rev NA. A built all-motor high-rev 3400 in a built Fiero chassis would have to be fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by black86glhs View Post
    The 2.5 can be built to make some good power for such an old design, actually.
    maybe if you call 180hp good. the block is really weak. like 180+hp and you are risking cracking the cylinders.

    the crank cant take revs above 5k for long before it breaks too.

    now the super duty 4, now that can make some power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    maybe if you call 180hp good. the block is really weak. like 180+hp and you are risking cracking the cylinders.

    the crank cant take revs above 5k for long before it breaks too.

    now the super duty 4, now that can make some power.

    Brian
    180 N/A hp from that motor is good. Brian, I'm not saying it is the greatest, but for that design, it is good. The SD4 is what you should use to make high hp, I agree. The torque it makes when modded keeps you from having to rev the hell out of it, also.

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    I ported the heads and intake on my wifes beretta a couple years before we got rid of it. That design didn't flow as well as the 3400 design, but you could feel it pull harder. Always liked the 60* engine design.
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    i was under the impression that you meant more than 180. yeah 180 isnt bad at all really for the motor.

    Brian

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    Back in the day the Super Duty 4 cyl. was the Pontiac performance engine for the Fiero.
    If I recall this n.a. engine package made some pretty wicked h.p. for it's size.

    Oops, I just saw some previous posts about the SD4. Oh well, enjoy the pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neongary View Post
    Back in the day the Super Duty 4 cyl. was the Pontiac performance engine for the Fiero.
    If I recall this n.a. engine package made some pretty wicked h.p. for it's size.

    Oops, I just saw some previous posts about the SD4. Oh well, enjoy the pics.
    No need for the oops, that is what Brian was talking about. Man, I haven't seen one of those in years. Thanks for the pics.
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