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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Yea, we have been talking, unfortunately I am fighting altitude...
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Thanks! I'm looking forward to next season already. And i think Joe is looking forward to some friendly competition! And, he still comfortably sitting on top of the list.



    Thanks Simon!
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    I had issues with my Cometic in my 8 valve too, couldn't get the damn thing to seal, but it does work in my TIII?
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanmanČ View Post
    I had issues with my Cometic in my 8 valve too, couldn't get the damn thing to seal, but it does work in my TIII?
    What symptoms did you observe to say it didn't seal? What I am describing? It does not push into the coolant whrn it is just normal use.
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by MILKCARTON View Post
    Yea, we have been talking, unfortunately I am fighting altitude...
    Holy crap, that's going to make for some high compression! I think my pistons have 23cc dish!
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Holy crap, that's going to make for some high compression! I think my pistons have 23cc dish!
    I put it together and put it in my Shadow to break it in, it went 11.70 first pass and was super rich, also had way to much bottom end, went from 1.62 60 ft. to 1.80, was a spinning mess, should be better in the van..

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by MILKCARTON View Post
    I put it together and put it in my Shadow to break it in, it went 11.70 first pass and was super rich, also had way to much bottom end, went from 1.62 60 ft. to 1.80, was a spinning mess, should be better in the van..
    Sounds exciting!
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Sounds exciting!
    It should be with a real turbo on it...

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    MeanMini update:
    So it seems after a bit of research into just which replacement fuel tank i ordered, I find out the Spectra Premium does not have a baffled sump. So, i need to think about the best solution.

    When Brian had the van there for the engine rebuild, he did a list of other maintenence replacement items, including the new Walbro 255 in-tank pump, new fuel sender, and new fuel tank.
    I didn't expect to have to mess with it "ever" again.
    So as i'm sure there are several options, i wouldn't mind hearing some suggestions keeping in mind i do still intend on having Mini available for daily pleasure driving.

    The most obvious is replace the tank with a baffled sump model. But, would that need further modifying for drag racing in mind?
    Or, replace the tank or modify the existing and try to have a sump cut in, and rethink the pump arrangement? Maybe use an external?

    I think i need to keep the budget low, for a variety of reasons.

    Would a large U-shaped baffle about 2" tall (and a 4-5" radius) tack welded to the floor of the tank around the pump suction with the open part of the U facing the front of the vehicle be enough to keep the sock submerged on hard launches?

    I'd like to be able to race with about a 1/4 tank of fuel.
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)


    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman
    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    Price the stuff out? Cheaper to have a tank fabricated.

    /snark


    It is time, buckle up.

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    Someone at work was telling me able this very item!
    Looks very promising.
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Wayne, have you considered a fuel pump module, I believe they were used in Caravans from around 1993.

    One of its purposes was to eliminate tank baffles.

    Thanks
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by GLHS60 View Post
    Wayne, have you considered a fuel pump module, I believe they were used in Caravans from around 1993.

    One of its purposes was to eliminate tank baffles.

    Thanks
    Randy
    I'll have a look around www.rockauto.com and see if i can find what you are referring to.
    As Gary mentioned, those hydramats must be made of gold filament or something $230 for a 11x11 pad? Yikes.
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    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by GLHS60 View Post
    Wayne, have you considered a fuel pump module, I believe they were used in Caravans from around 1993.

    One of its purposes was to eliminate tank baffles.

    Thanks
    Randy
    Do you mean this?
    It is pump and sending unit. The tank looks similar shape but only one opening.
    Looks like it would still be susceptible to the sloshing at launch.
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    Wayne H.

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    '89 Dodge Caravan SE 2.5L turbo auto, "Mean Mini" yes, Gus' Mean Mini! (Current best 11.7786@113.04 mph! - Jan 15th, 2017 Fayetteville Dragway, NC)
    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Like this:

    http://www.carparts.com/details/Dodg...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

    The plastic housing acts as a reservoir.
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    Like this:

    http://www.carparts.com/details/Dodg...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

    The plastic housing acts as a reservoir.
    I really don't see how that helps. Still just has the small sock, so if that gets uncovered during sloshing, then would still draw in air. Or am i missing something?
    Wayne H.

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    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    The pump is mounted inside the housing, which is filled with fuel, I think by the return line. If the sock is uncovered it draws out of the housing until it's covered up again (or the housing runs dry lol).

    At least that's how I assume it works.
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    The pump is mounted inside the housing, which is filled with fuel, I think by the return line. If the sock is uncovered it draws out of the housing until it's covered up again (or the housing runs dry lol).

    At least that's how I assume it works.
    I guess the return flow would help.
    Wayne H.

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    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Pricing on this particular one is a bit high, but something like this would certainly help eliminate fuel starvation issues. It's a reservoir that fills full of fuel with your tank's pump, then has it's own pump that feeds your rail. I have seen several 700+hp track cars running these without having any starvation issues.

    https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...lar-surge-tank

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    Re: Intro and Update: Slugmobile and Mean Mini! (long read, but worth it)

    Yeah surge tanks work good.
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