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    epoxy for port filling

    hey what kind of epoxy are you guys using to fill aluminum with??

    will JB weld work? or should I look into something else....

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    If you can drill and tap for aluminum machine screws, up from the underside of the short turn, and into the area to be filled, a lot of them - can you say porcupine? - then JB Weld in my experience works well. Lay the JB Weld in by layers so that it takes a good bite on the screws. Then cut the screws' exposed portion, the part proud of the JB Weld, with your die grinder, and port to taste. The underside may be part of the block/head interface so the screws have to be machined off there too.
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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    yeah Im capable of doing that stuff but I would rather not. was sort of hoping to go with a poor mans port job! id rather not have to deck the head, or spend more money then I have too lol.

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    Careful use of a dremel and a file will get you by decking the head.
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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    Or you could countersink the heads.

    However, you need kinda different techniques if you've ported it all ready and gone too thin. Like use the JB Weld from the coolant side.

    How much more height do you need off the floor anyway? I've got a cunning scam for if you need more than 1/4" ..... and it should work in exhaust ports too.

    (BTW crappy tire has some "Cold Steel" or something putty that is supposed to take up to 500C or so but it's something like $15 a stick and you don't get much, you could spend $100 doing that when someone might be able to build your ports up with weld for that)

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    cold steel or cold weld???

    i got cold weld here....works great on the water pipes in the house! lol


    i was not sure where or what i will be applying it too. i have a few ideas in mind. i have a butt load of heads here that I want to port over the winter. 655, 445, 287 and 782's lol.......

    655 would def get some floor work done. im not worried bout the other G head ports unless i was planning to raised the roof. the swirl head im not 2 familiar with, but im def thinking they need some epoxy in the bowl area!

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    Wasn't cold weld, though maybe I got confused with that. Cold weld does 149C continuous, good enough for N/A intakes anyway.

    Found this stuff though while I was looking...
    http://www.amazon.com/CarGo-8024-The...8111913&sr=1-7

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    There is a couple pretty good products on the market from what I've read .. and would be applicable for your needs Juggy. I'll check the forum I'm thinking of to find a link.http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...64&hilit=epoxy

    Here's a thread that discusses some of the options.

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    Wasn't cold weld, though maybe I got confused with that. Cold weld does 149C continuous, good enough for N/A intakes anyway.

    Found this stuff though while I was looking...
    http://www.amazon.com/CarGo-8024-The...8111913&sr=1-7
    I like the price! It seems to be OK, probably as good or better than JB...

    Personally, I'd feel fine using whatever for testing, but I'll always be a bit nervous using it in a "live" engine knowing what "stuff" can do to an engine at speed... Not that I wouldn't do it! I'd just be nervous while I did!

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    Though looking at that later, I'm not sure it's not just some fancy muffler cement.

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    Re: epoxy for port filling

    My experience was with an air cooled Yamaha SR 500 head. The bike is sitting behind my garage. I did that port job more than 30 years ago; when I parked it, that JB Weld was still sound. The bike was overbored, cammed, ported of course, and had a big header and megaphone; it was peaky, made power at 6000 to 7500, and I spun to that level everytime I took it out; it would take maybe 5 or 6 hours at race speeds to crack its crankcases parallel to and below the deck, or the cylinder parallel to and above the deck. That's why it's parked. Despite those operating conditions the JB Weld survived.
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    -- Alexis de Tocqueville

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    --Ayn Rand

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