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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Rich,
    any updates on all this stuff (especially the rampage rear stuff =)

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Rich,
    any updates on all this stuff (especially the rampage rear stuff =)
    No updates on them. I think BC 's staff is all preparing for Sema so I didn't hear anything from them.

    The rampage rear is a big project. There isn't room to change to a trailing arm coil spring setup and the leafs are either too high in the stock form or too low if the axle is flipped.

    Vic and I are going to look at modifying the bed to take a shock tower which would be integrated into the wheel well (like the charger/omni rear) but it will take a while to get that all worked out.

    -Rich

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    I just moved the Rampage into the on-deck position Updates should start happening soon...

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    sounds great! I know you two will come up with something that works awsome!

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quick update:

    I talked to BC today and he said he would check with the manufacturer about if they can start a new product with only 6 initial orders or not. Given that there are very few new parts to make it could happen.

    If it goes to production it looks like they will probably need me to send them some stock components which would then be shipped overseas so that they can verify that things are done correctly. After that point they would send me the prototype to test.

    If they reject the idea of building them then I might still be able to get them but it would add some cost and possibly not allow for a warranty... If there is no warranty then the replacement cartridges are $95 each.

    Now if we got another 5 or so people on each kit that would help.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Well...let me win that Powerball and I'll get you those other 5 orders!

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Well...let me win that Powerball and I'll get you those other 5 orders!
    I am waiting for them to accidentally send me the money. It is cheaper than playing and the odds are the same. Plus the accidental money is tax free!

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    rich, as those stock parts need to go overseas, i could help you out with some stock suspension from my 92 daytona parts car or get something from the JY.


    lmk
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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    @andreas: i could imagine sending my stock 92 parts over there when taking over your MP/KYB/Eibach suspension

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    this would put my car in a non-drivable status until the BC coilovers are done. can't do that

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    haha, as if you were using it as a daily driver xD we all know that a turbo dodge's typical habitat is sitting on jacks with the hood popped and the engine compartment torn into pieces
    nah it's okay, but depending on when you'd be ready to hand me down your suspension i could imagine starting to pull MY struts/shocks/springs (i take it these are the parts needed?)..

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    I would be: G BODY and Rear and Front
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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Dodge View Post
    rich, as those stock parts need to go overseas, i could help you out with some stock suspension from my 92 daytona parts car or get something from the JY.


    lmk
    Thanks for the offer.

    I think if I just ship them to Florida where their US headquarters is they will cover the rest.

    I already sent them the rear shocks from a closeout on rockauto so I now just need to see if there are some cheap springs and struts.

    -Rich

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbryant View Post
    I will post some pictures of my prototype kit shortly.

    -Rich
    How shortly?

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    How shortly?

    +1 lets see these prototypes

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by omni_840 View Post
    +1 lets see these prototypes
    Man it is like you guys want to hold me to what I say or something...

    Sorry for the delay. I don't have everything back together but here are some shots.

    The Fronts are pretty straight forward. I made top plates that have the identical footprint to my koni coilover plates:

    Note: The GJKHPA fronts are the same with the exception of a different top plate.

    Front Pics:
    There are actually 3 bolt holes on the back side and front side but if you go for max camber/caster only the outside 2 can be used. I would plan on fixing this in production by recessing the bolt tops. That will also allow for more adjustment on cars that don't have their towers cut.
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    (no comments about soft/hard please...)


    full view
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    view of top plate from the bottom side.
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    Before Install:
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    Notice that the insert threads into the bottom so no strut travel is lost when lowering.


    Check out the bearing in the top of the spring hat. This makes it so that the spherical bearing doesn't have to both turn and pivot.
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    Charger Rear BC Shock Pics:

    The rears were the big problem on the prototypes because none of their off the shelf shocks had a long enough threaded portion to go through our bushings. I fought with this for a long time before coming up with a solution.
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    Yes that is indeed a MAG lugnut that has the correct thread and the same diameter and spacing as the stock lbody spacer... I just step drilled the top washer out to 11/16 and now the Mag lugnut goes through and acts as the top nut and an extension.
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    Normally the back shocks have a knob like the front ones but in this case I can just use a 3mm extended length T allen wrench to do the adjusting. They are under the fender covers so this makes for a smaller hole anyway...


    Johnnys bushings are thicker than stock so I added an extra bushing in the mix because the rubber bushing is supposed to match the length of the steel spacer and that is why they don't over tighten. If the bushing is too thick it won't tighten down correctly.
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    Hopefully a full production shock wouldn't require the MAG lugnut but it really isn't a bad solution IMO... I can live with it just fine on my car and the hollow tube will be just as strong as the smaller strut shaft anyway.



    Full view (including my rear vented rotors that are currently installed with a 1/8" annodized wheel spacer.) I plan on switching to 1G neon rotors spaced out to work with non vented backing plates soon.
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    The clearance on the bottom is tight but it doesn't hit.
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    Top Bushing installed.
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    Before Install:
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    Adjustment is actually limited by the collars hitting not by the insert threading into the bottom. They could be made lower by going with a 1" shorter spring (but they go pretty low).

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Rich,

    Quick question: On the GJKHPA body rear shocks, how will the stiff/soft damping adjustments be made?

    I'm hoping it will be easier than current Koni setup where you have to unbolt the shock, compress it, then turn the shock body to get the desired damping.
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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    this is interesting. Ive been thinking about running a set of coil overs in the front of my GLHT. Ill keep an eye on this one.
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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by csxtra View Post
    Rich,

    Quick question: On the GJKHPA body rear shocks, how will the stiff/soft damping adjustments be made?

    I'm hoping it will be easier than current Koni setup where you have to unbolt the shock, compress it, then turn the shock body to get the desired damping.
    It would be a dial on the side of the shock shaft.

    No need to remove them.

    -Rich

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Great! That was what I was hoping to hear.

    Thanks again Rich
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