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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    It doesn't really matter for the thread engagement aspect of things, I was just wondering because that looks pretty low and mine were adjusted up quite a bit to achieve a similar height when I had the SRT4 versions. The version with the longer rod is about perfect for everyone IMO.

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    Re: Unofficial BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo_III View Post
    I'm not sure if they have the longer rod or not, I do have the 1/2 spacers installed as well. I just bought them in May. I guess this would be a question for Rich.
    You should have the 40mm longer struts than the original versions.

    I have tried to improve things along the way.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    It doesn't really matter for the thread engagement aspect of things, I was just wondering because that looks pretty low and mine were adjusted up quite a bit to achieve a similar height when I had the SRT4 versions. The version with the longer rod is about perfect for everyone IMO.
    That's pretty much the height my '91 sits at with majorly cut Eibachs. I like it but the struts are bottoming out. Pretty much ruined a pair of Konis
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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    That's pretty much the height my '91 sits at with majorly cut Eibachs. I like it but the struts are bottoming out. Pretty much ruined a pair of Konis
    BC's don't bottom out like that. They have a fixed travel based on the length of the spring and the strut. The adjustment is in the bottom mount rather than from a shorter spring so they don't lose any travel when you lower them.

    The limits of lowering is mainly from the control arm angle when you run BCs.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbryant View Post
    BC's don't bottom out like that. They have a fixed travel based on the length of the spring and the strut. The adjustment is in the bottom mount rather than from a shorter spring so they don't lose any travel when you lower them.

    The limits of lowering is mainly from the control arm angle when you run BCs.

    -Rich
    Nice. Did you see my previous question about getting a spring for the BC fronts that would match the Eibach 2804 fronts, so they would work with the Eibach 2804 rear springs if I left them in there? IIRC the 2804 front spring rate was 300 lbs/in.
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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Those who have the original SRT length version ... what was the car height when they were adjusted all the way up?

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    I'm not sure if I have any pictures of our Daytona with them on there. I'll check to see if I have any with the CSX. It's about as low as you want to go with them adjusted as high as I felt comfortable going given the thread engagement spec.Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    ETA: that's a bad photo of our old daytona with them at their as shipped height. It was way too low.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    ETA II: Here is a photo of my CSX with the same struts on it. It's not the best either, as it looks like there is a lot more room than there really is. IIRC you can get about two fingers between the tire and fender. The car is about a hand's width off the ground at the front fascia. The control arms are roughly parallel with the ground though, so that's what is really important.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    To cut the strut towers out, I nested 2 hole saws. I used a smaller one that fit inside the current hole, and then nested that saw inside a larger one that cut the hole out the size I wanted. It took a while. It made a mess (I suggest a vacuum to get rid of all the metal shavings). I did use lube, but it still took a while. You have to use a powerful drill (I ended up with a 1/2" chucked Dewalt with the extra handle on it!), so be careful because it'll wreck your wrists! I don't know that I ever got those 2 hole saws apart. I think they are still on the same adapter in the bottom of my tool box!
    That would be a great way to go if you're going to use a hole saw.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaserDad View Post
    I did my towers a few years ago, and used a hole saw. Now that I have a plasma cutter, I would highly recommend it, instead.

    Definitely tape and cover the entire engine compartment, before drilling. You will never be able to get rid of some of the filings, and they will rust.
    A plasma cutter would be ideal for this job. I attempted to use a hole saw today with the template, but my saw wanted to jump around everywhere and ended up making an oval out of the template in short order. I busted out the die grinder as suggested by someone earlier in this thread. It took a while, but I have some fairly round holes in the strut towers now. If I went to a cartridge roll or flap wheel with the rings in there, it would make it perfect. I now have a scarred portion of my pass side tower which just caused the damaged strut tower opening to shift sides since the mechanic who did my original alignment tore up the driver's side. Oh well. That's life.

    I would add that the filings doing it this way were unreal, so I can only imagine what that would be like with everything in the car.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Ouch! Man, sorry to hear that. I agree a plasma cutter would be the best tool for this job. Yeah, the shavings it made was obscene! I taped stuff off a little, but it still went all over. The PB Blaster kinda kept it lumped, then I shop vacced the crap out of everything with a blow gun to help dislodge hidden FOD.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    if you have iron filings you can't retrieve simply pour an oil chaser in after them.. at least they won't rust if you remember to do it every once in a while

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    I am looking to build a hole saw fixture for cutting the holes for enlarging the strut towers. I have already built a strut tower brace so I know where the holes need to be. What size hole saw are people using? I am looking to make a jig that anyone can use to cut out their strut towers. It will have a removable insert that will center the jig on the original hole, then give a solid fixture to drill out the strut tower by bolting into the strut mount holes. Should make this process a lot simpler I just need to know what size hole saw people are using.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    I'll check mine in a bit and report back. I want to say it was 4", but I'll double check that.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    I have my BC's on order. Can't wait until they get here. Ordered the ER external reservoir fronts with BR rears. Not sure if I will drill out the strut towers. Would feel kinda bad doing that to a numbered car.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleD View Post
    I am looking to build a hole saw fixture for cutting the holes for enlarging the strut towers. I have already built a strut tower brace so I know where the holes need to be. What size hole saw are people using? I am looking to make a jig that anyone can use to cut out their strut towers. It will have a removable insert that will center the jig on the original hole, then give a solid fixture to drill out the strut tower by bolting into the strut mount holes. Should make this process a lot simpler I just need to know what size hole saw people are using.
    I simply used a regular hole saw chuck and 2 saws on the same chuck. I think the inner one that fits inside the OE hole is 2.5", maybe 3"? and the outer one was whatever size I needed (4"?). This is a "wrist breaker" set-up! In order to do the job, you need to use at least a 1/2" chuck drill...which WILL try to break your wrists!

    I *HIGHLY* suggest a plasma cutter...if you have access to one.

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    Re: Official BC Coilover Kit Development Interest.

    the tool rental guy might have something - this one goes to 4 1/2 inches

    hydraulic 15 ton, likely much better tool than a greenlee punch for thin electrical box metal

    https://www.amazon.com/Hydraulic-Met.../dp/B007I7HJNY

    and , just big how does the hole need to be ?

    best thing to cut steel is a shear , no mess .. just hole

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