Neon transfer gears?

[cordes]

I have a 97' SOHC Neon and would like for it to turn less RPMs on the freeway. It's really flat around here so I just don't need to be turning 3K RPMs at 70mph.

Now, I've heard that these transfer gear deals are easy to change and would drop my RPMs if I use the right ones. Which ones do I need? From what car? Are they really that easy to install? What would be my new cruising RPMs at 70MPH in 3rd?

[contraption22]

From the Dodge Garage.

There was a variety of different gear ratios & transfer gear sets made for the 413 over the years from the factory, a few of them are listed in the Mopar Performance catalog or you could just go digging in the factory parts books to find a combination that suits you.

Transfer gears-

0.91 (52 and 57 teeth) (later L body)
1.04 (47 and 45 teeth) (Neon)
1.22 (60 and 49 teeth) (early L body with the VW)

In the factory service manual the following possible stock final drive ratios are listed:

2.60 => 0.91 transfer and 2.86 ring
2.78 => 0.91 transfer and 3.05 ring
3.02 => 1.06 transfer and 2.86 ring
3.22 => 1.06 transfer and 3.05 ring
3.50 => 1.22 transfer and 2.86 ring
3.72 => 1.22 transfer and 3.05 ring

And for Neons:

3.19 => 1.04 transfer and 3.05 ring
2.98 => 1.04 transfer and 2.86 ring

[cordes]

I beleive neons have their own transfer gear ratio, which were not available on older TM's.

You would need to swap in the .91 transfer gears for a lower ratio.

So I need to get them out of an older car like ours? I read that some guys are using the gears out of a later L body?

ETA: Using the ones out of a later L to lower the FD numerically.

[contraption22]

I think you are correct....

[bakes]

http://web.archive.org/web/200710091...transmain.html

[cordes]

This is going to be great. Now I just need to crunch the numbers to make sure I won't go too numerically low with the FD. Well, I guess I need to figure out what they really are, how they work, and how to change them too.

I'm going to be a trans master by the time I done fooling around with these cars.

[ShelGame]

Transfer gears are actually pretty easy to swap. They're under the LH side trans cover, you can swap them with the trans in the car and the LH front wheel off. Jack the car up enough so that no trans fluid leaks out and you're golden. You'll need a big breaker bar and a torque wrench...

[bakes]

or a rag and impact gun , put the rag betweeen the gears and nail it with the inpact to get them off then use a gear puller and use tread locker!!!!

[Speedeuphoria]

use red loctite

I dont know how they figure 3.19 when 1.04x3.05=3.17 but thats what you got prob actually what I'm running currently.

Easiest would keep your ring and pinion and find some .91 gears (Simon has some but price went up)

That would give you a 2.78 highway gear, should be OK

[cordes]

Wow, this sounds really easy. Thanks guys!
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[turbovanman²]

Just make sure when you do it, you grease the bearing spacer in place, if you don't get it seated correctly, it can be a mess.

I do have some .91 gears for sale, open to a decent offer,

You also need brake cleaner and RTV for the cover. If you have a Neon, you have the updated nut retainers so if you don't get them tight enough, they won't come loose.

You will need a harmonic balancer puller for one of the gears.

[cordes]

Just make sure when you do it, you grease the bearing spacer in place, if you don't get it seated correctly, it can be a mess.

I do have some .91 gears for sale, open to a decent offer,

You also need brake cleaner and RTV for the cover. If you have a Neon, you have the updated nut retainers so if you don't get them tight enough, they won't come loose.

You will need a harmonic balancer puller for one of the gears.

Thanks for the tips. I would snatch them up off of you, but the shipping is probably more than I would want to pay.
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[turbovanman²]

but the shipping is probably more than I would want to pay.

Why do you keep saying that? I don't live in Europe,

[cordes]

Why do you keep saying that? I don't live in Europe,

Most of the stuff you ever have which I need is smaller stuff. If I find an auto omni in my local yard I could get the gears for $10. I'm sure shipping from CAN is only a couple bucks more, but on the little stuff that makes a large percentage difference in price.

Really, it's just that I'm super cheap.
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[turbovanman²]

Really, it's just that I'm super cheap.

That's better,

[cordes]

I picked up the gears today for $5. I also picked the cruise setup for it and my total was still only $11.85 with tax.
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[turbovanman²]

I picked up the gears today for $5. I also picked the cruise setup for it and my total was still only $11.85 with tax.

Wow, score,

The fact you found them is amazing too,

[cordes]

Wow, score,

The fact you found them is amazing too,

How much do they usually go for? I found them in the first Shadow I walked up to. It was a plane jane vert. It had to have been a 91-93 model year.
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[cordes]

Whoops. It looks like these are actually a set that wasn't mentioned in the table Mike posted. They are .96.

0.96 56/54
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[turbovanman²]

How much do they usually go for? I found them in the first Shadow I walked up to. It was a plane jane vert. It had to have been a 91-93 model year.

I paid $75 plus shipping a few years ago, couldn't find any, anywhere. They are rare around here and unless you have the tranny numbers from Rob's Korner, its basically check until you find them. The .91's are supposed to be only in L body's, the 1.04's in Neon's and the 1.22's in early L body's and VW's. Sure you have the right ones?