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    Master rebuild kit 413

    priced out some of the stuff from chrysler and its very reasonable but to the best of my findings there is no 'master overhaul' kit put out by mopar ? so I'm stuck buying stuff piece by piece or one of the things I found

    http://www.importperformancetrans.co...-kit-1642.html

    Would that include everything as far as seals and all the little misc parts ?

    Looked into the Sonnax offerings and will be doing all of the those parts as well.

    Should the rear band be replaced ? Most seem to mention that it never really wears out or goes bad. The front looks to be common enough and included with every kit but the rear is a dealer only part (~$50~) unless your buying a relined one ?

    Automagics are a very new and foreign thing to me

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    kit looks to use alto red eagles. Though Ive never heard of problems in other high performance applications, some here have had problems with the teeth on the inside not grabbing all that great.
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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    I priced out a kit for Mr Overkill, I supply the Gasket and seal kit, filter, steels and fibers for the rear clutch, extra clutch's and steels to put 5 clutch's in the front clutch, HD band strut, both bands, modified rear sun gear housing with a needle bearing, both welded pinions, front is 5 pinion upgrade, $450.
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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Steve Locket was selling kits on neons.org
    Here's the complete kit.

    Modifyed kickdown piston for a faster 1-2 shift and much less wear
    on the band.

    Softer kickdown piston return spring, helps with 2-3 flare

    Softer high gear piston return spring for both more pressure on the
    pack and to reduce 2-3 flare.

    Carbon lined band with spot welded tabs for faster 1-2 shift and to
    keep the tabs from breaking off the band with higher line pressures.

    Complete reseal kit, all seals including axle and pump.

    Thrust washer kit

    Alto high gear clutch pack with 6 red disc's and Rabesto's steels

    Stock forward clutch pack with clutch's and steels.

    Filter

    HD rear band strut, the stock one will fold up at high pressures..

    What you don't get is gaskets, most of us silicone the covers back on
    like the factory does. But Mopor DOES sell a very trick oil pan gasket.
    It's steel with a rubber liner on it, can be reused as ofter as you want.
    A good idea on a race trans that has it's filter changed often.. Costs like
    $35 at the dealer.

    The full kit is $250 plus I need your old springs and piston back..

    Line pressure for this should be around 135 psi, that's about as high as
    I would go with a stock input shaft...

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    That mopar gasket for $35 is a NICE piece and i would recommend it for everyone who's doing their own trans work, ESPECIALLY if this is your first time.

    In fact, if you want to save yourself even more hassle in the long run, drill the pan for a drain plug while you're at it. A drain plug and that gasket is the bomb diggity. lol.

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedeuphoria View Post
    Steve Locket was selling kits on neons.org
    Has any one delt with him on this kit.

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Interesting tricks there I've never heard of...^^^

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    I've had good luck with these folks, many different kits depending on what you need/want to spend, or just parts ala cart.....

    http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    priced out some of the stuff from chrysler and its very reasonable but to the best of my findings there is no 'master overhaul' kit put out by mopar ? so I'm stuck buying stuff piece by piece or one of the things I found

    http://www.importperformancetrans.co...-kit-1642.html



    Automagics are a very new and foreign thing to me
    WOW!! That's expensive!!!

    What does your trans need???

    If it's just slipping new fibers can be had for about $20.00 or so.....

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    Looked into the Sonnax offerings and will be doing all of the those parts as well.

    Should the rear band be replaced ? Most seem to mention that it never really wears out or goes bad. The front looks to be common enough and included with every kit but the rear is a dealer only part (~$50~) unless your buying a relined one ?
    Cheap Bands: http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/...nds_s/8864.htm

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by shackwrrr View Post
    kit looks to use alto red eagles. Though Ive never heard of problems in other high performance applications, some here have had problems with the teeth on the inside not grabbing all that great.
    Ohio Rob has used the 6 clutch kit - blowded it up.

    The 5 OE clutch setup seems to work great.

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    YEA TRANSMISSIONPARTSUSA has some nice pricing. I am trying to see if i can get enough cash to give to simon since he has helped me out with a bunch of questions and his price includes all the guesswork out with cleareances and all. PLUS its better to support a TM member

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Anyone have the part number for that reuseable pan gasket from Mopar?

    Cheers, TheCanadian

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr overkill View Post
    YEA TRANSMISSIONPARTSUSA has some nice pricing. I am trying to see if i can get enough cash to give to simon since he has helped me out with a bunch of questions and his price includes all the guesswork out with cleareances and all. PLUS its better to support a TM member
    Aww shucks, thanks, blushing,

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanadian007 View Post
    Anyone have the part number for that reuseable pan gasket from Mopar?

    Cheers, TheCanadian
    Check page 5 of the old FAQ's or the top of the transmission section, its stickied.
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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    $60 for a f'ing pan gasket ?

    I hate RTV with a passion and have stated so many times but damn... I could buy 12 tubes of goop and each one would probably last 3 complete transmission overhauls for one gasket.

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    $60 for a f'ing pan gasket ?

    I hate RTV with a passion and have stated so many times but damn... I could buy 12 tubes of goop and each one would probably last 3 complete transmission overhauls for one gasket.
    Dude, GM has been using these things for years and they are worth it. Especially how well 413's eat trans fluid....LOL. Relax Simon, it was a joke.
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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Yo Simon, they've got a power steering cooler cheap in the garage sale section there...
    http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/...rs_s/14723.htm

    /threadjack

    Bah, their bushing kits are OOS.

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    Re: Master rebuild kit 413

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    $60 for a f'ing pan gasket ?

    I hate RTV with a passion and have stated so many times but damn... I could buy 12 tubes of goop and each one would probably last 3 complete transmission overhauls for one gasket.
    RTV, what a pain, ack. I would rather spend $60. I've had my pan off like 30 times, so RTV, ack, what a pain, I love trying to seal the pan with fluid constantly dripping off the trans, its damn near impossible,

    Quote Originally Posted by black86glhs View Post
    Dude, GM has been using these things for years and they are worth it. Especially how well 413's eat trans fluid....LOL. Relax Simon, it was a joke.
    See above, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    Yo Simon, they've got a power steering cooler cheap in the garage sale section there...
    http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/...rs_s/14723.htm

    /threadjack

    Bah, their bushing kits are OOS.
    Fixed it, I updated my thread on that,
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