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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    I wasn't sure how much you guys had modified. And, I couldn't remember what all it was setup for. Lemme make a couple of changes to the MAP scaling and header for you. Gimme a couple of minutes...
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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    OK, here's the table file with the MAP info and header updated for your cal...
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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    OK, here's the table file with the MAP info and header updated for your cal...
    Thanks Rob. Ill probably get Brian to give me a hand this weekend.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    yup^^^

    sean you want me to come over a little earlier than 6pm to mess with Turbonator LM on the charger and your cal on the CSX?

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    yup^^^

    sean you want me to come over a little earlier than 6pm to mess with Turbonator LM on the charger and your cal on the CSX?

    brian
    Yea, we can do that.......although the fight doesnt start until about 9, so if we got together around 6 or 7, that would give us plenty of time to tweak.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    I got to sit down with the cal and Brian's explanation of what the different warm up curves were really helped. I wound up adding a bunch of fuel to the pumping efficiency at idle and also on curve B, but I subtracted a bunch of fuel from curve a and c. I got it idling pretty well.....right around 14.5 to 15.0. I think its actually a bit rich because if you rev it up and then let it settle....it immediately settles to about 12.0:1 until the computer gets the o2 feedback and adjusts to 14. Ive got some more playing around to do but its waaay better then it was before.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    i was planning on being at laskys at 6pm.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    good deal. glad it is working for you now.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    i was planning on being at laskys at 6pm.

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    Ill just meet you there around then if all goes well on the homefront. Ill drive the charger.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    good deal. glad it is working for you now.

    brian
    Yes, i got impatient and didnt want to wait for you to help me set up robs updates, so I just tried this on a whim and it worked. I guess I could sense what the computer was doing, i just needed the explanation of what each of those curves controlled. That helped a lot.

    Id still like to get the updates on this cal on saturday though, so ill bring the computer along with me.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    OK.....now ive got it idling decent. Its slow to rev down after initial start up and if I rev it up in neutral.....takes an extra long time for the revs to drop down to idle. What can I mess with to get it decel faster?

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Well, it depends. When the idle hangs high, is the A/F rich, lean or just right?
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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    Well, it depends. When the idle hangs high, is the A/F rich, lean or just right?
    Ill have to make a note and get back to you. I dont have the car out today. Im hoping the weather holds out OK this weekend. Can you give me some possible scenarios or are there too many variables??.....

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    I think there's too many possibilities at this point. I could tell you how to adjust the idle speed, but I don't know if that's what's wrong.
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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    I think there's too many possibilities at this point. I could tell you how to adjust the idle speed, but I don't know if that's what's wrong.
    OK, ill let you know the AFR when the rpms hang. Thanks again for your help.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    there is a significant amount of timing in that cal iirc. i wonder if that is the issue combined with the fact that its a MP based cal and TempAboveWhichSparkScatterIsActive and ScatterInhibitBelowThisSpeed are set to keep the revs high between shifts according to the description in the table file.

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    Re: Which parameter to adjust idle fuel mixture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    there is a significant amount of timing in that cal iirc. i wonder if that is the issue combined with the fact that its a MP based cal and TempAboveWhichSparkScatterIsActive and ScatterInhibitBelowThisSpeed are set to keep the revs high between shifts according to the description in the table file.

    Brian
    Hmmmm. I did enable the spark scatter again after I wasnt having success with disabling it.

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