Rebuild: Turbo Minivan, Part 1

[BIG PSI]

Where exactly do you live and how far is it from Cinncinati?

We are the OTHER side of the state.
That would be a 4 hour (one way trip in a car).
We live in Cuyahoga Falls, Oh. 44223

Chuck

[gasketmaster]

We are the OTHER side of the state.
That would be a 4 hour (one way trip in a car).
We live in Cuyahoga Falls, Oh. 44223

Chuck

Well I don't think that's in the cards this trip but we are talking about coming out to SDAC next year

[BIG PSI]

Well I don't think that's in the cards this trip but we are talking about coming out to SDAC next year

If you come to SDAC in 2011 are you flying out or towing out the Mini ?

Chuck

[Dave]

Got some more work done on Wed.

Some more pretty pieces...


Turbo Action, Cheetah RMVB




Minivans.


Freshly blasted and painted POR15 exhaust mani, swingvalve, and turbo bracket.




I may try to swing over again tonight and put my lines back on and button a few last odd's and ends. The k-frame still needs cleaned and painted as do the fuel lines, and one last part of the wiring harness needs touched up. I need to install my electric fan... Lots to do still!

-Bryan

[Reeves]

You running a slider cam with roller rockers?

Also, it's much easier to put the intake manifold on first, then the exhaust manifold.

Just a tip

Looking good!

[turbovanman²]

Also, it's much easier to put the intake manifold on first, then the exhaust manifold.

Just a tip

Looking good!

+2, not sure if you can get the intake on with the ex on, tried it the other day,

[Reeves]

+2, not sure if you can get the intake on with the ex on, tried it the other day,

You can, but you're going to be making custom sockets (ground down).

[BIG PSI]

He just put the exhaust manifold on while working on the turbo.

I still have to wash out the intake, TB, and fuel line with gas to make sure that there is NO media blasting beads in them.

I wouldn't want to get that in the motor (yuck) or oops !!!!!

[Dave]

You running a slider cam with roller rockers?

Also, it's much easier to put the intake manifold on first, then the exhaust manifold.

Just a tip

Looking good!

What? I do believe it's an all roller setup. What made you think otherwise?

I know, lol, I keep forgetting every time I install the manifolds. Got it on tonight and the engine is kind of in... it's at least between the tires.

[Vigo]

As long as it's between the front tires it counts

[Dave]

As long as it's between the front tires it counts

Hell! It's done then!

[Reeves]

What? I do believe it's an all roller setup. What made you think otherwise?

Looks like the cam lobes are exceptionally wide.....like a slider cam.

[Dave]

Looks like the cam lobes are exceptionally wide.....like a slider cam.

Hmmm is that the only way to tell without removing the cam caps and looking for the oil slots? The head is off a log car so it is possible. I dont know if the cam gears are the same keyway attachment, but my old round tooth gear went right on.

[Reeves]

Hmmm is that the only way to tell without removing the cam caps and looking for the oil slots? The head is off a log car so it is possible. I dont know if the cam gears are the same keyway attachment, but my old round tooth gear went right on.

Do you have any roller cams laying around to compare the width of the lobes to?

The oil slots in the cam caps may or may not be there depending on which cam/rockers the head was originally equipped with.

The key and sprockets all fit exactly the same. There may be timing issues though.

[Vigo]

I agree, i have never seen a roller that looked like that..

[glhs727]

yes, looks like a slider cam. Sliders have wider lobes that are .88" wide. Rollers have skinnier lobes that are only .68" wide. You don't have to take off a cam cap to see that....

[Dave]

yes, looks like a slider cam. Sliders have wider lobes that are .88" wide. Rollers have skinnier lobes that are only .68" wide. You don't have to take off a cam cap to see that....

Uh-oh! I will measure this with my calipers tomorrow and find out. Thanks for the info!

If it is a slider, I can simply install non-slotted cam caps and the roller cam and be ok I'd imagine. According to The Dodge Garage you can swap from roller to slider so I'd imagine it would be ok vice-versa.

You know what... I think I remember seeing roller fulcrums on the rocker arms.... I'll double check anyway tomorrow. I just have a crummy valve cover on there now not bolted down (you know, just in case I decide to get ripped out of my mind and start wrenching on it I don't mess it up ) so it's no big deal to check.

Anyway, on with happy news!

From yesterday and today....

Trans is painted.. turned it a tad blue... Figured out half our parts are one shade of silver as the others.


More goodies.


Back part is done.


Well we tried it this way first by swinging the engine from the hoist and bolting the trans on with a jack...ended up not working!


This concluded last night...


Today was much better!


Look at that k-frame!!!


Getting there...


All bolted in for the night! Trans tomorrow.


For tomorrow, install trans, radiator, start hooking up electronics and heater line, downpipe, brackets, axles, put the suspension and tires back on, and maaaaybe start on mounting interfooler!

[glhs727]

DON'T swap / mismatch cam caps!!! these are specific to each head. Just swap out the cam and rockers

[Reeves]

DON'T swap / mismatch cam caps!!! these are specific to each head. Just swap out the cam and rockers

Yeah, what she said

The cam caps are like main caps or rod caps.....they are machined while bolted together. They then are married to that specific head/location/orientation and should never be swapped.

The extra oiling slots (if it has them) won't hurt you at all.

[Dave]

Yeah, what she said

The cam caps are like main caps or rod caps.....they are machined while bolted together. They then are married to that specific head/location/orientation and should never be swapped.

The extra oiling slots (if it has them) won't hurt you at all.

Ok that was I was concerned about. I just called Rob and he said the same thing.