Pre intercooler cooling pipe from Siliconeintakes.com?

[turbovanman²]

Do you guys actually think this will work? If it was some Ebay company, I'd be skeptical but these guys seem to sell products that work.

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/produ...f06436751183ca

[Juggy]

I dont even have to read that page, just looking at the picture is enuff to tell me it will help

all they are doing is adding more surface area which in terms means better heat dissapation

its been proven many years ago.....on oil pans, tranny pans, amplifiers, etc

[turbovanman²]

Hmmmmmmmmm, might have to get me one, I need to order some silicone vacuum hose anyways,

[Juggy]

.....just checked the page again......$40?!?! seems pricey

[Juggy]

also if you do get something like that id make sure that it was located where it could get as much air as possible to help make the best of it

if you install that right in your engine bay off the turbo, i cant see it being too beneficial once the engine gets up to temps and heat soaks it

[TurboRon25]

I think you need to ask yourself how much air is actually touching the tube.
How cool is that tube going to be?
Do you know why intercoolers have all those small tubes and/or turbulators?
Do you think it would even drop the air temp 1 degree? Even 1 degree Fahrenheit?!?

It's pretty late, have you been drinking?

Ron

[bakes]

You might have to watch heat soaking them because of no air flow around them which in that case you need to shield them .

[shadow88]

In theory, it works. How well the product works has a few variables already mentioned regarding airflow. The question you need to ask is, how low are your inlet temperatures now with the intercooler you have?

[turbovanman²]

I think you need to ask yourself how much air is actually touching the tube.
How cool is that tube going to be?
Do you know why intercoolers have all those small tubes and/or turbulators?
Do you think it would even drop the air temp 1 degree? Even 1 degree Fahrenheit?!?

It's pretty late, have you been drinking?

Ron

Not drinking but high on race gas fumes, just got back from the track,

Ok, we've had this debate on my diesel forum about finned diff covers, a few calling them snake products that don't work, well of course they work, think of an air cooled engine and some people have actually tested the temp change after the covers and they work so I guess I just answered my own question, lol.

In theory, it works. How well the product works has a few variables already mentioned regarding airflow. The question you need to ask is, how low are your inlet temperatures now with the intercooler you have?

Not sure, just figured EVERY little bit helps,

[shadow88]

Well, you have a scan tool, you could see back to back testing through the charge temp sensor compared to ambient.

The best intercooler is chemical

[turbovanman²]

Well, you have a scan tool, you could see back to back testing through the charge temp sensor compared to ambient.

The best intercooler is chemical

That is true,

[cordes]

I think you need to ask yourself how much air is actually touching the tube.
How cool is that tube going to be?
Do you know why intercoolers have all those small tubes and/or turbulators?
Do you think it would even drop the air temp 1 degree? Even 1 degree Fahrenheit?!?

It's pretty late, have you been drinking?

Ron

I would agree 100%.

First you must look at the delta between the engine bay temp and the charge air temp to determine what 100% efficiency of this piece would do for you. (I bet even that is small)

Second you would need to determine how much heat this thing can dissipate while the air is traveling through it at 300-400mph. That isn't a lot of time for the air to cool mainly via convection.

In all reality there are a lot of places to spend your 39.99+ shipping which will account for faster times than this thing.

[shadow88]

Even still, the engine bay temperature would be lower than the air leaving the turbo on a high boost engine, right? We're up around 300f leaving the turbo, aren't we? Probably around 190f just over the transmission?

The product doesn't claim to bring the charge temps down to ambient, but if it takes, say 30f off the top, the intercooler has a 30* head start to bring the charge closer to ambient.

[cordes]

Even still, the engine bay temperature would be lower than the air leaving the turbo on a high boost engine, right? We're up around 300f leaving the turbo, aren't we? Probably around 190f just over the transmission?

The product doesn't claim to bring the charge temps down to ambient, but if it takes, say 30f off the top, the intercooler has a 30* head start to bring the charge closer to ambient.

I would agree with your temp numbers. I would hardly believe that the increased surface area of that thing would be good enough to do more than a degree or so though.

ETA: The finned portion is only 6" long. That is a joke IMO.

ETA II: If this worked well, wouldn't we see it on the indy cars? Drag cars? Any cars? I'm willing to bet the gained HP would be more than offset by the increased weight of the fins.

[shadow88]

Ah, yes. I honestly just glanced at the picture and I understood it's concept but didn't read any details. Maybe 2 of them, and combine shipping?

[Dusty_Duster]

That thing is about as lame as using an intercooler sprayer on your radiator.

[Juggy]

That thing is about as lame as using an intercooler sprayer on your radiator.

....but not quite as lame as those stickers on your car! and it actually does something besides rice out your ride


point is the product and theory behind it WILL WORK. just how well
theres too many variables to consider like temperature, mounting location, how much air it will recieve, if the car is setup for race only or daily driver.....yada yada......


like i mentioned b4 its all about the increased surface area and dissapating more heat. on a drag car setup it would help for sure as its not constantly being heat soaked.

same principal with all intercooling piping as well. people go out and buy the cheap stuff thinking they got a bargain, but if they spent a little extra on the thicker better piping, then the charge temp will be that much cooler


sounds like some people need to learn about how metal and heat react 2gether..........

[Zoskalon]

I'm willing to bet the gained HP would be more than offset by the increased weight of the fins.

I honestly believe that.

If water were flowing through a pipe like that, it would help a little. But with air flowing through it, there is very insignificant surface contact with the pipe.

[Darkapollo]

Increased weight of the fins? I am willing to bet that weighs less than the typical steel pipe we use for intercooler pipe.
Honestly..... the weight of the fins? How about we stop speculations and someone just buy it and do a few tests.

[OmniLuvr]

^it was a joke...

it might work if there was fins on the inside and the outside, and only if it was installed before the intercooler, or maybe some sort of coolant flowing around it with fins on the inside, even then, i could find a better way to spend 40 bucks...