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    Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    Ok since my sorta TIII thread got sidetracked, I finally got around to decide to start one in the project log for any of those who where actually interested in the build....

    I acquired the TIII setup for some cash and my drag rims. after parting out most of my 8 valve setup, it pretty much paid for itself. I figure ill have no more then 1200-1500 into the complete swap, including a bunch of perf parts, as which most have been acquired. the engine ran 13.2 @ 107mph on 7psi boost short shifting at 5k rpm in a drag setup shelby charger, the car really needed to be tuned, and was super rich....

    the engine is a 2.5L TIII lotus completely rebuilt. the top end has all new guides and valve job. bottom end has arp studs/rod bolts, polished beams, venolia pistons. the oil pan is baffled and setup for drag racing, and has some screen to help protect the crank from oil. I recently did some modifications to the pan to help oil control and fix a couple imperfections.

    Since Ive acquired the setup I basically selling a bunch of 8v stuff and using it to get the perf stuff for the lotus head....

    heres a basic run off on the setup:
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    ported manifolds/head/turbine housing
    adjustable cam gears
    gt3076r turbo with .63 turbine housing
    ATP UI swingvalve
    3" exhaust
    spearco 1080cfm IC 2.5" IC piping

    .....also have a wet kit, and a meth kit....lol....

    trans is a 568 and ill be running the aluminum flywheel. distributor on the side of the head and using SMEC electronics and tuning will be done by me with the ostrich emulator and a datalogging cable to run from the laptop the the stock computer.

    i have some more pics to take of a few things.....and a couple things i wont bother posting pics of (sorry couldnt resist lol). I some of my attachments so ill have to upload photos again....

    I got all the stuff to make a custom manifold I just have had any time to try n get on a bridgeport or ask someone who works in a show to do it for me so at this point it looks like ill be running the stock manifold for now until i can get that worked on. i have a 62mm jeep TB for this.

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    Is this going in your Charger?

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    yep its going into my 87 charger. best of 12.0@115mph with 20 psi boost and 40 psi static fuel pressure lots of knock disconnect the knock sensor

    heres a couple pics of the oil pan and pick up given too me...not sure what it came out of?? but i was thinking of using it...


    i was trying to pull the valves out of the head today, but the damn valve spring compressor i spent 120 bucks on BROKE the very first valve i went to use it on....so i need to give napa their POS tool and get my $$$ back. I just ordered a KD 3087 on ebay about 20 minutes after the incident....

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    stop breaking tools and work on that car !!!

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    Quote Originally Posted by shelbymonster View Post
    stop breaking tools and work on that car !!!
    id rather break tools then my elbow
    but then again at least you have an excuse why you havent worked on the car....lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggy View Post
    id rather break tools then my elbow
    but then again at least you have an excuse why you havent worked on the car....lol!!
    lol wow thats not nice haha

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    I like that oil pickup I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHNSLHT2 View Post
    I like that oil pickup I think
    jay got it from a friend. he got it from another local. apparently came off an EARLY car??? he was sayn 83-84 n/a
    id love to get some feedback on it. as im unsure if its good to use or what?! it def looks like it wont have a problem picking up oil....i just want to make sure it wont suck any air in....hence my Q on another thread about asking how much oil is actually in the engine when its running, at any given time....

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    got a valve spring compressor. currently ripping the head apart so i can start porting this weekend.
    found #3 exhaust valves covered with some oil....strange cause it was suppose to have all new valve seals? yet theres 4 black and 4 red ones....lol....idk....

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    Nice, I like that pickup, shouldn't have any issues as long as you have oil. I would run a windage tray with the CB oil pan though, otherwise you could risk oil starvation on launch.

    The pu looks like a normal bs CB unit, just modded with the end removed and then wrapped with that steel mesh.
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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    Looks good! Where are you guys buying those intake manifold setups from?

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    Re: Juggz TIII Shelby Charger swap

    Lengel makes them. Not sure if he has any left.
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Nice, I like that pickup, shouldn't have any issues as long as you have oil. I would run a windage tray with the CB oil pan though, otherwise you could risk oil starvation on launch.

    The pu looks like a normal bs CB unit, just modded with the end removed and then wrapped with that steel mesh.
    apparently its STOCK MOPAR pick up....from an early car.....i couldnt tell you which tho.....

    yes I do plan too use it for sure!!
    anyway the head has been completely torn down. about to start porting 2morrow. was suppose to be 2day but i have already gotten in the alcohol too much LOL....
    i got the KD-3087 tool. heres my experience using it:

    after figuring it out how it actually works on our setups (gotta bolt down the rocker arm) it was pretty much a breeze removing everything. i will have too say it was very time consuming (1.5 hours). there isnt much room to work with. now that its all apart i plan to grind the top end where the springs are, and make clearance for the spring compressor tool. the way its been machined from the factory left a small lip, and the tool is rubbing/stopping it from compressing the spring down. i was able to get them all out, but now that its disassembled i plan to clear what little meat is causing trouble.

    now that things are out I pan to weigh the stock retainers, and the Ti retainers...does anyone have these #s??? its been a little bit since I picked up a Ti retainer, but the stockers dont feel all too bad....im estimating approx 30-35 grams (dont ask how i know LOL)...couldnt tell ya what the Ti ones weigh.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dds78910 View Post
    Looks good! Where are you guys buying those intake manifold setups from?
    yep lengel. i went the cheaper route. i have to do my own injector bores and fuel rail provision.
    however i do have machining experience. which is no issue....the issue is trying to find machines to work on since i decided to get out of "the trade"

    need to get in contact with a "friend of a friend"....i can get into his machine shop for the small price of 24 buds!! ($44 cdn......yes 24 beers....44 DOLLARS....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggy View Post
    $44 cdn......yes 24 beers....44 DOLLARS....)
    Which is like $50 USD by the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggy View Post
    jay got it from a friend. he got it from another local. apparently came off an EARLY car??? he was sayn 83-84 n/a
    id love to get some feedback on it. as im unsure if its good to use or what?! it def looks like it wont have a problem picking up oil....i just want to make sure it wont suck any air in....hence my Q on another thread about asking how much oil is actually in the engine when its running, at any given time....
    Cory, that is from a 86-87 maybe 88 TD 2.5. Made for balance shaft pan.
    Todd

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    NIce intake...very cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CNH320 View Post
    Which is like $50 USD by the way!
    Are you telling me a case of beer cost $50 in Canada! If so that is more than double what it is here.

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    Cory, that is from a 86-87 maybe 88 TD 2.5. Made for balance shaft pan.
    Todd
    I knew i had one of those but couldnt remember what motor it was on.. that sounds right though, i think it's my 86 2.5 tall block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dds78910 View Post
    Are you telling me a case of beer cost $50 in Canada! If so that is more than double what it is here.
    I was exaggerating some but not much. At current exchange rate, $44 Canadian is about $47 US so yep still almost double!!
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