3.0L AWD 5-speed minivan!

[turbovanman²]

Ok, kinda remember, hard keeping track, lol.

[Kreel]

Cams have cleared customs and should be here by Tuesday

Also, here's the adapter plate that took forever to get built. There's still more work to do on it but at least I have it in my hands. The final cuts/holes should be quick and easy.



Rough mock-up. Can't wait

[Ondonti]

Now you just need to machine the OEM plenum flat and superglue.


Have you thought about making a big mouth plenum with the older style top OEM plenum piece.

[RoadWarrior222]

Or flip a lower intake, saw some off, weld it into a box plenum with the SC dangling underneath, caged in by the runners....

[Kreel]

Finally got my cams last night. The cam card is better this time, but not perfect. The base circle was ground correctly which was the biggest problem. Now after trying to install them the intake is held open ever so slightly I figured all my calculations were correct, but it looks like it's sitting on the underside of the rocker arm now. Sigh. So I'll be able to make it work with a couple more "tweaks" but I definitely won't have it running before the last track date.

[RoadWarrior222]

Nice, makes me wonder if I could actually do worse with sandpaper and eyeball.

But umm, are you using hydraulic or solid lifters, since shouldn't hydraulic self adjust? ... and if you have those, do you pull 'em fully pumped? and actual turning the engine over would have 'em settle down? Just saying, before you go hacking bits off something that didn't need bits hacking off.

[Aries_Turbo]

i thought he was doing the solid setup?

brian

[turbovanman²]

Looking good.

Next time hit me up for cams, I'll get it right the first time,

[Kreel]

Nice, makes me wonder if I could actually do worse with sandpaper and eyeball.

But umm, are you using hydraulic or solid lifters, since shouldn't hydraulic self adjust? ... and if you have those, do you pull 'em fully pumped? and actual turning the engine over would have 'em settle down? Just saying, before you go hacking bits off something that didn't need bits hacking off.

I'm using solid lifters.

i thought he was doing the solid setup?

brian

Bingo

Looking good.

Next time hit me up for cams, I'll get it right the first time,

Lol, I don't even want to think about the next set of cams yet. I haven't driven my van in over 10 months and I'm itching to do something with it!

[Shadow]

Finally got my cams last night. The cam card is better this time, but not perfect. The base circle was ground correctly which was the biggest problem. Now after trying to install them the intake is held open ever so slightly I figured all my calculations were correct, but it looks like it's sitting on the underside of the rocker arm now. Sigh. So I'll be able to make it work with a couple more "tweaks" but I definitely won't have it running before the last track date.

Damn, was hoping to see you at the track in the next couple weeks.

[Kreel]

Damn, was hoping to see you at the track in the next couple weeks.

I know, I know I've been dying to try and make it to the track all year. Instead of life easing up it seems to just throw more on the plate, lol. When are you planning to go to Gimli next? I might try to sneak out to watch you make that 9 second run

[Shadow]

I know, I know I've been dying to try and make it to the track all year. Instead of life easing up it seems to just throw more on the plate, lol. When are you planning to go to Gimli next? I might try to sneak out to watch you make that 9 second run

Easy now, I said my goal for the Charger was to put it into the nines, I also said that I wasn't expecting to accomplish that in one year! lol

I'm hoping to get out next wknd. It's the wifes B-day and what better way to spend it! (that's what she said! lol)

[Ondonti]

How is the van doing? What exactly is contacting. I didn't see a specific statement on that. To RW's comment, even my cams are too much for OEM lifters to make up and I have a larger base circle then Kreel. Mine were ground aggressively but not in an attempt to gain clearance. I was using washers and it caused problems since 3.0 hydraulics are really not compatible. The lash ended up damaging my high dollar custom valves and since finding that and barely being able to save the valves, I have not assembled that head again.

I have been daily driving the solids and I seem to have a VSS or guide failure. When I take it apart I will have a better idea on reliability for the solid rockers. I decided to not add oil passages to them. 190,000 mile cylinder heads that are probably from 1991 so that would be pre OEM guide fix. I am pissed about my car but I hope it at least provides good info. A head builder I know thought that the biggest risk with the rockers was wallowing out the guides if there was too much friction between lifter and valve (not adding oil squirting holes). I had squeaking problems but when I inspected further it seems it was a high spot on my re-profiled rockers contacting the OEM retainer. Hoping its not related to the solids.

Not brilliant to put a huge cam and untested custom setup solid lifters into your daily.

[turbovanman²]

Not brilliant to put a huge cam and untested custom setup solid lifters into your daily.

How else are you going to test it?

[Kreel]

How is the van doing? What exactly is contacting. I didn't see a specific statement on that. To RW's comment, even my cams are too much for OEM lifters to make up and I have a larger base circle then Kreel. Mine were ground aggressively but not in an attempt to gain clearance. I was using washers and it caused problems since 3.0 hydraulics are really not compatible. The lash ended up damaging my high dollar custom valves and since finding that and barely being able to save the valves, I have not assembled that head again.

I have been daily driving the solids and I seem to have a VSS or guide failure. When I take it apart I will have a better idea on reliability for the solid rockers. I decided to not add oil passages to them. 190,000 mile cylinder heads that are probably from 1991 so that would be pre OEM guide fix. I am pissed about my car but I hope it at least provides good info. A head builder I know thought that the biggest risk with the rockers was wallowing out the guides if there was too much friction between lifter and valve (not adding oil squirting holes). I had squeaking problems but when I inspected further it seems it was a high spot on my re-profiled rockers contacting the OEM retainer. Hoping its not related to the solids.

Not brilliant to put a huge cam and untested custom setup solid lifters into your daily.

Uh oh, someone caught me not making updates Truth be told I haven't done any work on the van since I last made an update. Opportunities keep presenting themself which I cannot pass up on. It's great for paying down the bills so I can invest more money into the van...not so great for actually getting any spare time to work on the van right now. Everything is sitting there in my garage, taunting me! I also had 3 wonderful days of driving the company car (*cough* 2009 Nissan GT-R *cough* ), but that's a story for another day.

The underside of the rocker arm is actually contacting the retainer now. This is only happening on the intake side. I'll need to grind a little of the underside off (~1mm) so everything will clear. The whole valvetrain is VERY tight (ie. very little adjustment left). I'm confident everything will work out in the end though.

[turbovanman²]

Good job your still alive, after watching the news last night, it was touch and go,

[Ondonti]

I will be updating my holset thread soon with pictures of my lifters/valves after maybe 2k miles. My geometry is now proven to be unhappy. 100% now that I will be removing my solids. Craziness on a daily where the cam is so big it can't idle when cold without very high warm idle rpms and terrible MPGs.

Hoping things look a little better on my Ferrea head. I need to look at my old valvetrain pictures and do some thinking.

Edit, Pictures are posted on my Holset thread and also in the BoostedMopar 3.0 valvetrain thread. I do have my wonders if my Ferrea valves are as hardened as our oem valve. Maybe these rockers would destroy what is left of my Ferrea valve stem tips instead of getting destroyed.

[Force Fed Mopar]

Did you ever get this van back together? I just got a '91 SWB AWD van, so I'm snooping through through all the AWD threads