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    Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    I did a GLHS clone for a customer, then his friend put an IC on it with a Honda aluminum rad, well even with a 180 stat, it runs at 210+ on the highway. Rad gets plenty of air flow and the electric fan is running all the time above 180 deg so its the rad which can't dissipate the heat. It has no a/c.

    I have 2 choices of rads, the regular or HD, the HD has a slightly bigger core, aprox 1-2 inches bigger all around but both rads have the same thickness core at 1 1/2 and 2 tubes. Price difference is $150. I know about TU's rads but not going to happen, he only drives it in the summer then its parked all winter.

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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    I use a G-body T1 radiator in my Horizon. Rarely goes above Tstat temp.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    I use a G-body T1 radiator in my Horizon. Rarely goes above Tstat temp.
    +1 that s what Dick an I run on are l bodys

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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    I use a G-body T1 radiator in my Horizon. Rarely goes above Tstat temp.
    Bolts right in?

    G body-Daytona right?
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    slight mods

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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Bolts right in?

    G body-Daytona right?
    Nope. Doesn't bolt right in. Had to weld on new lower mounts, drill new upper holes, and swing the alternator up to where the A/C compressor would be.

    But, no more cooling issues!

    Wider is MUCH better than thicker when it comes to radiators.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post

    Wider is MUCH better than thicker when it comes to radiators.
    Agree I had a ford work van rad in one of my p-bodys it was cool all the time regardless of what I was doing, but sadly ford van rads are hard to stuff in a small car.

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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Unless money is an issue, go with the HD one and he will be set. If you like modifying stuff, put in one of the other rads they mentioned.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    Nope. Doesn't bolt right in. Had to weld on new lower mounts, drill new upper holes, and swing the alternator up to where the A/C compressor would be.

    But, no more cooling issues!

    Wider is MUCH better than thicker when it comes to radiators.
    Hmmmmm, don't feel like redoing the alternator again,

    Quote Originally Posted by black86glhs View Post
    Unless money is an issue, go with the HD one and he will be set. If you like modifying stuff, put in one of the other rads they mentioned.
    HD rad is barely larger than the regular duty, hard to justify the huge cost difference for it.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Hmmmmm, don't feel like redoing the alternator again,



    HD rad is barely larger than the regular duty, hard to justify the huge cost difference for it.
    Ok then, go with the Non-HD. Pretty easy decision in my book.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Simon, how big is this cost difference? Does this car have a front mounted intercooler, or stock location?
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    Simon, how big is this cost difference? Does this car have a front mounted intercooler, or stock location?
    Its in the first post, $150,

    It has an aftermarket IC, core aprox 10" wide, 12" tall, off to the drivers side and flows well, air thru wise. If I jump the fan, it will easily hold a piece of cardboard there so this tells me the rad is simply too small.

    I might have another option, the VW guy next door has some rads with the Passat dual fan setup, the main motor sticks out but that will easily clear at the battery side and the fan is so thin, it won't get in the way. More playing around today.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Guess I should update, lol. I put a stock L body rad in, fixed the problem.

    I have pics, will post later.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Did the honda rad sit right down on/by the bottom crosspiece?

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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    Did the honda rad sit right down on/by the bottom crosspiece?
    Yes, and it got full airflow.
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    probably the front mount, I have a honda rad in mine and if I leave the fan on all the time it stays rock steady right at 179-180 even through a drag race or auto-x
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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Yes, and it got full airflow.
    Just checking, at highway speeds practically all the flow is down low. "Radiator Grilles" are a bit of a misnomer when they tend to aerodynamically block at highway speed and do practically nothing, they are almost purely decorative on anything built since mid 90s.

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    Re: Non HD cooling rad ok for a GLHS clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    Just checking, at highway speeds practically all the flow is down low. "Radiator Grilles" are a bit of a misnomer when they tend to aerodynamically block at highway speed and do practically nothing, they are almost purely decorative on anything built since mid 90s.
    Stock is mounted exactly the same.


    Quote Originally Posted by shackwrrr
    probably the front mount, I have a honda rad in mine and if I leave the fan on all the time it stays rock steady right at 179-180 even through a drag race or auto-x
    Nothing to do with the FMIC, as I stated, with the fan on, it would hold up a piece of cardboard and the spacing thru the fins/mesh? is pretty wide, you can see right thru it.
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