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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    That is one SEXY looking trans!!!!!!!

    Loving it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.216VTurbo View Post
    BTW that guy Alan is dead and gone. AJ has survived. I know it's kinda weird to do a name change after 45 years but sometimes we gotta roll with what life throws our way.
    Sorry, AJ it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Great update and beautiful work (as always) Warren! I absolutely LOVE the case bracing. You've got the gears turning in my head...
    Thank you JT, Where are your trans cases breaking? between the diff. and trans housings?
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    That transmission is a work of art!

    I have a couple of questions.

    What are you using for a launch control? I was brake boosting and I was cracking transmission cases (2) and I broke one input shaft (the input shaft broke on the road months after racing). I think it might have been due to the fact I was welding my gussets in and that might have been weakening the cases. I've gone away from welding cases and brake boosting and now have tried using a launch controller. Last time I ran I used the lunch controller and didn't have welded gussets and my trans held up putting 360 hp and 460 ft/lbs of torque through it. I've done the all the other regular mods to the trans, Peloquin, tighter clutch packs, eliminated accumulator servo, higher line pressure, etc.

    Are all those external transmission supports you built one-off items or are they easily reproduced?

    Did you build a gusset here to support the pinion too or just the one you pictured?

    What year/trans does the 300M(904 spline) input shaft you use come in, is it hollow for a lock up converter, and does the clutch hub it splines into have to be machined to fi or does it slide right in?



    I have since stopped racing do to my transmission being the week link. Now a days I get more enjoyment taking my turbo-van to car shows and blowing peoples minds than I do pulling and building transmissions.
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    That transmission is a work of art!

    I have a couple of questions.

    What are you using for a launch control?


    I have since stopped racing do to my transmission being the week link. Now a days I get more enjoyment taking my turbo-van to car shows and blowing peoples minds than I do pulling and building transmissions.
    I footbrake going into pre stage getting the boost and rpm up, then I bump in to stage and apply the line locks, locking-up all four wheels, then mat the throttle against the brks, let-go of line-lock button on last(or first) yellow.
    I do not weld in the gusset you showed, makes the case move around and distort, and-or crack.
    I know there are those who have successfully welded their cases, but I'm not taking a chance. From experience I know how much aluminum moves around when welded, especially cast aluminum.
    The strengthening girdles are one off (the diff. cover and attached plate and bar). The transfer gear cover we water jet cut from 1.50 billet, and I have the cad file for that, so that could be easily duplicated. You would only have to drill, and tap the holes.
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    In this thread JB weld is legitimised. This is true TM genius at work. Impressive as always Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    What year/trans does the 300M(904 spline) input shaft you use come in, is it hollow for a lock up converter, and does the clutch hub it splines into have to be machined to fi or does it slide right in?
    The 300M input shaft was a custom piece made by a Chrysler engineer about 10 years ago. Don't know how many were made back then, but I tracked this one down in Canada.
    I talked to the guy who made them (John Donato), he said he would make more if I would commit to at least 10 pieces. And yes, it is a drop-in part, non lock-up only. Direct fit into the clutch drum, but the turbine hub in the converter must be re-splined to accept the larger 904 shaft.
    There are about ten people running them as far as I know.
    Last edited by Warren Stramer; 08-08-2016 at 09:38 AM.
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Exceptional work as always Warren!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    I do not weld in the gusset you showed, makes the case move around and distort, and-or crack.
    Right, but do you bolt/JB weld a gusset in that area or only install the gusset you pictured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    Right, but do you bolt/JB weld a gusset in that area or only install the gusset you pictured?
    I only did the one pictured.
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    I once read some where that ohiorob was pulling timing on shifts but I couldn't figure how that was possible to trigger.

    Almost hope something breaks and you have to raise the bar again
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Thank you JT, Where are your trans cases breaking? between the diff. and trans housings?
    Yes, through the shortest distance to the hole for the shifter housing and corner bolt hole.

    Pics of cracks here:
    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...=1#post1108525
    Pics of what I was going to do with welding here:
    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...=1#post1109471

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    That transmission is a work of art!

    I have a couple of questions.

    What are you using for a launch control? I was brake boosting and I was cracking transmission cases (2) and I broke one input shaft (the input shaft broke on the road months after racing). I think it might have been due to the fact I was welding my gussets in and that might have been weakening the cases. I've gone away from welding cases and brake boosting and now have tried using a launch controller. Last time I ran I used the lunch controller and didn't have welded gussets and my trans held up putting 360 hp and 460 ft/lbs of torque through it. I've done the all the other regular mods to the trans, Peloquin, tighter clutch packs, eliminated accumulator servo, higher line pressure, etc.

    Are all those external transmission supports you built one-off items or are they easily reproduced?

    Did you build a gusset here to support the pinion too or just the one you pictured?

    What year/trans does the 300M(904 spline) input shaft you use come in, is it hollow for a lock up converter, and does the clutch hub it splines into have to be machined to fi or does it slide right in?



    I have since stopped racing do to my transmission being the week link. Now a days I get more enjoyment taking my turbo-van to car shows and blowing peoples minds than I do pulling and building transmissions.
    how about drilling drilling a hole and installing a rivet with a squeeze? Don't think you could hit one there.
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    As always Warren, your work preceeds you,

    Any chance of making the diff cover?

    Guess I've been lucky, only split one case right across the diff housing, happened while brake torquing at the line, don't really know what caused it.
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    Not much new here, got my torque converter reconfigured (higher stall) and installed. while waiting for the converter to get done, I finally got around to fixing my sloppy front suspension. Removed the rubber bushings, and machined some aluminum replacements, with spherical and needle bearings.
    Front end is aligned and car is ready to go.
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    Wow. That's impressive. I take it you're going to make another trip to the track soon? I'm also noticing that I may need to reread some of this thread, because last I can recall you were ultra close to the 9s with a hybrid 50 trim or some such. Now I see in your sig that you've gone 9.82. Congrats!

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    Just out of curiosity, why'd you stick with the stub style arms and k frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Wow. That's impressive. I take it you're going to make another trip to the track soon? I'm also noticing that I may need to reread some of this thread, because last I can recall you were ultra close to the 9s with a hybrid 50 trim or some such. Now I see in your sig that you've gone 9.82. Congrats!
    Was in the nines two years ago. Built a new trans last year, tested it a few times at the track, broke some trans parts sorting it out, and found out My rebuilt converter was way too tight. just got converter back and ready to test.
    Hope I can finally start upping the boost.

    (PS, the Laser has gone quicker than 9.82)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedon809 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why'd you stick with the stub style arms and k frame?
    Was going to build a tubular K frame, but got lazy. These stockers are light, and strong, but mainly cause I did a lot of lightening on my stock K frame years ago and I don't have time this year to tackle a full tubular build. Oh, did I mention how lazy I've become?
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    Great to hear updates Warren, beautiful work as always!

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