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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Damn! Thought I was going to come home to a bunch of winers when I posted that! lol You guys must be slowly growing up...........
    Well I drink alot of wine, so count me in for that group,
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Damn! Thought I was going to come home to a bunch of winers when I posted that! lol You guys must be slowly growing up...........
    Grow Up? NEVER!!! But, I'm not about to take this thread into a pro/anti Nitrous one... Even though you're wrong!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Mopar318 View Post
    Are you using a CNC rotor table? Or just hand crank style? We have a rotary table, and a lathe attachment table that can be used with different position plates. Basically you bolt on these plates, and there are holes in them at certain angles to lock in the position. I just have not figured out how to make it usable. It is a 80's bridgeport series II CNC machine we retrofitted to new electronics, and MACHIII software.
    No CNC here, just manual hand crank rotory table. The device you are describing is an indexing/dividing head for making gears and such.
    best 1/8 ET-6.16 sec. best 1/8 speed-119.70 Best 1/4 MPH 145.5, Best 1/4 ET 9.65 sec. 8 valve NO NITROUS!!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by zin View Post
    Grow Up? NEVER!!! But, I'm not about to take this thread into a pro/anti Nitrous one... Even though you're wrong!

    Mike
    Since my post Only pertained to what I though Warren's view of the "cheat juice" was, Only Warren could say wether I'm right or wrong.

    When it comes to my own view, well I can't really be "wrong" about my own view of something if that's what I choose to believe!

    Since what anyone else does has Zero to do with me, and it's Nothing to me what Anyone Chooses to do, I don't see right, wrong or indifferent in that either!

    I just think it's funny to see how worked up Some ppl get over it!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    No CNC here, just manual hand crank rotory table. The device you are describing is an indexing/dividing head for making gears and such.
    Yep, I couldn't think of the name. Indexing head. Would work well for making what you did, it might just take some time to figure it out.

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    When it comes to my own view, well I can't really be "wrong" about my own view of something if that's what I choose to believe!

    Since what anyone else does has Zero to do with me, and it's Nothing to me what Anyone Chooses to do, I don't see right, wrong or indifferent in that either!
    So if you use nitrous on your car, you think it's cheating, but if anyone else uses it, it is not cheating as it doesn't matter to you what they do. Fair enough.

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    So if you use nitrous on your car, you think it's cheating, but if anyone else uses it, it is not cheating as it doesn't matter to you what they do. Fair enough.
    Thought you guys would have got that the first time around

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Thought you guys would have got that the first time around
    Yup, up here in the northern "fly-over country" We choose not to use any of the gimmicks like 16Valves, big turbos, or nitrous. We race with one arm tied behind our backs..........Just to keep it fair!
    best 1/8 ET-6.16 sec. best 1/8 speed-119.70 Best 1/4 MPH 145.5, Best 1/4 ET 9.65 sec. 8 valve NO NITROUS!!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Yup, up here in the northern "fly-over country" We choose not to use any of the gimmicks like 16Valves, big turbos, or nitrous. We race with one arm tied behind our backs..........Just to keep it fair!
    "fly-over country" I guess you could say "Our $hit flys!!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Thought you guys would have got that the first time around
    Its Ok, JT has always been a bit slow, his brain is over exposed to the sun and thus overheats, shorting out,
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Thought you guys would have got that the first time around
    Maybe you should stop confusing us then with references to others cheating when its only cheating if you use it? or maybe I just truely need a canadian translator? LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Yup, up here in the northern "fly-over country" We choose not to use any of the gimmicks like 16Valves, big turbos, or nitrous. We race with one arm tied behind our backs..........Just to keep it fair!
    LOL, I think you are the only one running a "small" turbo these days Warren, and I you!


    Now that I got both of your attention, just curious what each of your cars weighs these days?

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Maybe you should stop confusing us then with references to others cheating when its only cheating if you use it? or maybe I just truely need a canadian translator? LOL



    LOL, I think you are the only one running a "small" turbo these days Warren, and I you!


    Now that I got both of your attention, just curious what each of your cars weighs these days?
    Last time on the scales...................Lets see your scale ticket.

    JT, dont take my trash talk too serious. I'm just in a smart---- mood today............Like.." next time we race, I wont give you a half second head start, I'll just take off one of my spark plug wires".
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Wow, that's really light.

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Last time on the scales...................Lets see your scale ticket.
    Damn, I need to put the Z on a diet!

    JT, dont take my trash talk too serious. I'm just in a smart---- mood today............Like.." next time we race, I wont give you a half second head start, I'll just take off one of my spark plug wires".
    LOL, never take anything too seriously! :tumb: And win or lose, I can't wait to race you again, that was fun!

    I was serious tho, you have the fastest small turbo out there, no other small turbo is close!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Wow, that's 1200 lbs less than mine,
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Wow, that's 1200 lbs less than mine,
    Just to put things in perspective, Stephane B. told me directly, (not second hand info )his charger weighed 1740lbs when he went nines with the 8V. That would be over 500lbs lighter than my XE.
    best 1/8 ET-6.16 sec. best 1/8 speed-119.70 Best 1/4 MPH 145.5, Best 1/4 ET 9.65 sec. 8 valve NO NITROUS!!

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Just to put things in perspective, Stephane B. told me directly, (not second hand info )his charger weighed 1740lbs when he went nines with the 8V. That would be over 500lbs lighter than my XE.
    I could see that, his car looked light,
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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Just to put things in perspective, Stephane B. told me directly, (not second hand info )his charger weighed 1740lbs when he went nines with the 8V. That would be over 500lbs lighter than my XE.
    Wow, your numbers are sounding more impressive all the time. I'm not sure how that's possible though...

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Just crunching some vauge numbers, it seems like you'd need a little less than 500HP to the wheels to achieve your goal, maybe another 25HP or so from where you are at now.. But I'm sure you already knew that!

    I am curious what pump you are using in the trans? I understand the latter model Neon pumps are more effeicient, which to means less parisitic HP loss... I have no idea if it would be more or less durable in this application though...

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    Re: Laser XE coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Wow, your numbers are sounding more impressive all the time. I'm not sure how that's possible though...
    That's why Stephane was able to do it on way less HP. 513 on an engine dyno I believe.

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