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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Thanks for the update. I've really enjoyed following the progress of this car.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by forcedfedmopar View Post
    Its clear as day that the .48 housing is holding my numbers down. So......




    I have a holset He341 thats going on along with a home made header. I have everything to get started so i will update when that happens!
    Nice ! Can hardly wait to see your results!

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    ive never run more than 22psi at the track, they dyno would peak to 28ish psi then fall off to 23psi! (you can hear the sound change in the videos) i imagine thats the exhaust piling up on itself in the manifold before the turbo? I will also be getting a 6pt cage welded in this winter. Thats gonna add about 70lbs to the car. I started running on the tread mil last week. I hope to loose about 30 lbs so that will offset the cage a bit. thinking about pulling the heater box out and gutting it besides the heater core. might be able to get about 15lbs there? I WILL NOT remove the interior so ill have to come up with other ways of lightening the car without removing anything that is useful/functional.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by forcedfedmopar View Post
    thinking about pulling the heater box out and gutting it besides the heater core. might be able to get about 15lbs there? I WILL NOT remove the interior so ill have to come up with other ways of lightening the car without removing anything that is useful/functional.
    I doubt that much, maybe 5 pounds at most. The AC unit doesn't weigh anything, and that's really all that's in there besides the fan, heater core, and a couple flapper doors. And personally, I'd never remove the heat from a car that ever sees street duty.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    I suppose you could drill some holes and ziptie the mode doors so it blows out the defrost and take off the vacuum controls. With the mode doors 'fixed' the vacuum controls on the dash could be taken out of the controller so you would only have the temp blend and fan speed. There isn't much of anything in the HVAC system to take out without simply removing it all. Maybe cut up the box and epoxy on some flat plastic to reduce the size and bulk(ie passages to blow out the vents & floor)? I'm just throwing out ideas there.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by supercrackerbox View Post
    I doubt that much, maybe 5 pounds at most. The AC unit doesn't weigh anything, and that's really all that's in there besides the fan, heater core, and a couple flapper doors. And personally, I'd never remove the heat from a car that ever sees street duty.
    Agreed. I will leave the heater core. just get rid of the evep and junk. Ive never opened one up. so 15lbs was just a guess.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Where's the dyno sheet? Impatient minds are impatient
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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by forcedfedmopar View Post
    ive never run more than 22psi at the track, they dyno would peak to 28ish psi then fall off to 23psi! (you can hear the sound change in the videos) i imagine thats the exhaust piling up on itself in the manifold before the turbo? I will also be getting a 6pt cage welded in this winter. Thats gonna add about 70lbs to the car. I started running on the tread mil last week. I hope to loose about 30 lbs so that will offset the cage a bit. thinking about pulling the heater box out and gutting it besides the heater core. might be able to get about 15lbs there? I WILL NOT remove the interior so ill have to come up with other ways of lightening the car without removing anything that is useful/functional.
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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    Where's the dyno sheet? Impatient minds are impatient
    ill get it up tonight.

    rob, Maybe when i make the header ill put a port in each runner and the collector to really get an accurate reading. maybe...first i have to make the prototype!

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by forcedfedmopar View Post
    ill get it up tonight.

    rob, Maybe when i make the header ill put a port in each runner and the collector to really get an accurate reading. maybe...first i have to make the prototype!
    Sounds good, but knowing how choked is is right now would be nice.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    sorry, the all the exhaust is coming off from the head back and going onto my van. I suppose i could put a port in it then, but wont be the same setup so it wouldnt give us any good readings anyway.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Yeah it flattened out your power curve a bit. Not having as big of a torque spike at 3500 probably helps your traction, and it's making 40ish more tq at 5k. Hp steadily increases too instead of peaking early.
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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    when i grab the old chart from work ill let you know the exact increases. but it was significant. I know if the turbo was properly sized the HP and torque would just keep increasing til red line.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    There's hardly anything to come out of the box as others have stated. I'm all about weight savings and I don't think that I would bother personally. I bet you would come close to the same weight savings by relaying the headlights and fog lights to eliminate some wires.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Interesting that it spooled up pretty much the same on both setups.
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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    about 500 rpm different. sounds about right for down low. im sure the cam played a large part in that.

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by forcedfedmopar View Post
    when i grab the old chart from work ill let you know the exact increases. but it was significant. I know if the turbo was properly sized the HP and torque would just keep increasing til red line.
    Deff out of breath way early as your HP shouldn't have even peaked till 6500rpm or later!

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    Interesting that it spooled up pretty much the same on both setups.
    F4 cam did the same on my set-up. Lost virtually nothing on spool-up. (Maybe 100rpm?)

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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post

    F4 cam did the same on my set-up. Lost virtually nothing on spool-up. (Maybe 100rpm?)
    I was thinking more about the top end combo as a whole, stock head/cam/intake vs ported head/F4 cam/modded intake.
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    Re: ForcedFedMopar's 85 GLH-T

    at 3k
    before 188hp and 330tq
    now 183hp and 320tq

    at 3.5k
    before 262hp and 294tq
    now 242hp and 364tq

    at 4k
    before 264hp and 347tq
    now 269hp and 353tq

    at 4.5k
    before 249hp and 291tq
    now 274hp and 320tq

    at 5k
    before 235hp and 247tq
    now 285hp and 299tq

    at 5.5K
    before 216hp and 206tq
    now 277hp and 265tq

    at 6k
    before 182hp and 162tq
    now 266hp and 226tq

    I hope this is informative. im not going to type out the whole list. but this give you a pretty good idea.

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