400 hp on a 8v??

[2.5tsa]

You should be able to do it...there are many street driven 2.4 SRT4s pulling over 400 hp...mine is about 285-300 using a BFMIC, Mopar 2 1/2 CAI, Mopar 2 1/2 exhaust with an extra muffler thrown in, Stage 2 with no toys, Walpro 255, and a Forward Motion S3 turbo running only 14 psi boost on 93 oct, pump gas, and DOT Hoosier drag radials. I am now breaking axles so in the next few weeks will go in some DSS stage 3s AND...best of all...a fuel controller so we can raise the boost. The wrench doing my car thinks the new contrroller is good for 100+ hp and we'll see 24-26 psi of boost safely. I am a conservative and can see the following:

If it ads only 50 hp my 12.8 ets will drop to 12.1s and if I gain 75 hp then I will be into the high 11s, he thinks I will run in the 11.6-11.7 or even in the 11.5s!

Of course, I STILL have a twin fogger nitrous set up sitting in the garage that I can set as low as 50 hp or a motor blowing 300 hp shot!!!

35 time NHRA/IHRA Drag Race Champ
05 SRT4 / S2 / 12.87 @ 110 / DOTs
05 Mustang V6 / wifes / 15.17 @ 92 BONE stock
96 Geo Metro / 3 cyl - 1 ltr - 55 hp / 19.84 @ 66
84 Horizon / used to run 13's no power adders

What does this have to do with his question? Why do you always have to talk about yourself? NO GIVES A SHAT ABOUT YOUR DUMB --- BRACKET RACING RECORD OR YOUR "PITBULL". You should call yourself and leave a voice message, then you can play it over and over again and instead having to post it. Sorry someone has to say it...

[zin]

What does this have to do with his question? Why do you always have to talk about yourself? NO GIVES A SHAT ABOUT YOUR DUMB --- BRACKET RACING RECORD OR YOUR "PITBULL". You should call yourself and leave a voice message, then you can play it over and over again and instead having to post it. Sorry someone has to say it...

Just who the hell are you?!

Angelo has real-world experience that he is sharing, that's something of value to this community, his accomplishments lend much more credibility to what he says than anything you and your 6 posts have to offer.

Unprovoked attacks like this won't earn you any favor with the other "residents" of this community, more likely the "ban stick".

Mike

[turbovanman²]

What does this have to do with his question? Why do you always have to talk about yourself? NO GIVES A SHAT ABOUT YOUR DUMB --- BRACKET RACING RECORD OR YOUR "PITBULL". You should call yourself and leave a voice message, then you can play it over and over again and instead having to post it. Sorry someone has to say it...

Hmmmmmm, jealous? Not sure why your lashing out at him, as said, he has merely pointed out real world facts, just like we all do, its called HELPING!!

[shelbyvnt2]

Is Lonewolf Performance even around any more?

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I would like to find an intake flange with injector bungs myself. If anyone makes these shoot me a pm.

[zin]

Lengle has made stuff like that, although I don't think he's made one with the injector bungs, I'm confident he could /would if he were sufficiently motivated...

Mike

[22shelby]

Hmmmmmm, jealous? Not sure why your lashing out at him, as said, he has merely pointed out real world facts, just like we all do, its called HELPING!!

absolutely Simon!!

to that 2.5tsa remember you can get something done right and have a 150 ways to do it... you've been on here for a month, and have posted NOTHING to contribute to this community...

hows this hot shot know it all, i went 12.66@107 on a STOCK 1 piece, a STOCK 46mm throttle body, in a STOCK BOTTOM END 2.5L HEAVY A$$ 3000lb Daytona and mine sat right at 300 hp... so heres some advice for you ...STFU!


on a side note, I for one, have found this thread to be VERY helpful as i too am shooting for atleast a 400hp goal for my Lbody

so thank you T-M

[135sohc]

What does this have to do with his question? Why do you always have to talk about yourself? NO GIVES A SHAT ABOUT YOUR DUMB --- BRACKET RACING RECORD OR YOUR "PITBULL". You should call yourself and leave a voice message, then you can play it over and over again and instead having to post it. Sorry someone has to say it...

You just joined last month. Then attacking someone on a posting made almost 2 years ago.

Consider this your first and only warning.

[88C/S]

Subscribed! This has been very informative and helped me make some decisions on what to get as replacements. Now I wished I was able to fully port my 2-piece before installing it. Have the v-band, large injectors, TU cast header, 3" mandrel bent exhaust and ported head. When I have the funds, will dyno the car. Not intended for the drags, but plan to autocross.
Would love to get 400whp or more.

[John B]

The valvetrain on these engines is no where near as bad as ppl try to make them out to be, IF you stay within the working perameters and make sure that everything is set-up and working right.

Forgive please for asking so many months later, but what would you consider the working parameters to be?

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best of all...a fuel controller so we can raise the boost. The wrench doing my car thinks the new contrroller is good for 100+ hp and we'll see 24-26 psi of boost safely.

I know this is an old post, but can you elaborate a bit on the fuel controller? Sounds very interesting!

[turbovanman²]

I know this is an old post, but can you elaborate a bit on the fuel controller? Sounds very interesting!

He's talking SRT4 so that doesn't apply to us.

[John B]

He's talking SRT4 so that doesn't apply to us.

poot.

[boost geek]

having guys like angelo on this forum is what makes TMso cool

[Shadow]

Forgive please for asking so many months later, but what would you consider the working parameters to be?

From all of the info I've gathered from sources I trust 100% and my own experience I would say up to .550 lift and 8000rpm is prob the safe upper limit with hydr lash adj's.

The Charger has proven itself "bulletproof" with the F4 and 7400rpm, the V/T works better than it did with the stock cam and .061's!

[John B]

From all of the info I've gathered from sources I trust 100% and my own experience I would say up to .550 lift and 8000rpm is prob the safe upper limit with hydr lash adj's.

The Charger has proven itself "bulletproof" with the F4 and 7400rpm, the V/T works better than it did with the stock cam and .061's!

I guess it's time to give Simon's S-60 roller a try.

[Shadow]

I guess it's time to give Simon's S-60 roller a try.

So the reason for not running the cam was fear of the V/T failing? I remember 10 years ago when it was said that the roller followers were so weak that we could never run a really hi po cam in these engines because the followers would be the first thing to fail! lol That the first thing that would be needed is a set of stronger roller followers.

So here we are 10 years later and Warren in running a .600+ lift SOLID cam with the stock roller followers at almost 8000rpm with one season behind him and no issues!

Lucky that some of us still use our own thinking caps instead of just believing the outcome of a group of ppl that just sit around discussing what will/won't, should/shouldn't work with NO actual proof!

[bakes]

So the reason for not running the cam was fear of the V/T failing? I remember 10 years ago when it was said that the roller followers were so weak that we could never run a really hi po cam in these engines because the followers would be the first thing to fail! lol That the first thing that would be needed is a set of stronger roller followers.

So here we are 10 years later and Warren in running a .600+ lift SOLID cam with the stock roller followers at almost 8000rpm with one season behind him and no issues!

Lucky that some of us still use our own thinking caps instead of just believing the outcome of a group of ppl that just sit around discussing what will/won't, should/shouldn't work with NO actual proof!

Couldn't have said it better!!!!

[turbovanman²]

I guess it's time to give Simon's S-60 roller a try.

Do it but run your stocker first, either dyno or track then switch to the S60,

[John B]

So the reason for not running the cam was fear of the V/T failing? Lucky that some of us still use our own thinking caps instead of just believing the outcome of a group of ppl that just sit around discussing what will/won't, should/shouldn't work with NO actual proof!

Such flattery! I don't claim to be as knowledgeble about these things as many of you. That's why I ask questions like that.

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Do it but run your stocker first, either dyno or track then switch to the S60,

I don't have access to either unfortunately. I'll use the trusty G-Meter.

[Ondonti]

Well I don't really know what srt-4's have to do with this thread but I concur with Shadow that broad statements about mechanical parts made by someone who is considered an "expert" should be taken with a grain of salt regardless of how much you want to suck up to them. We say a lot of things that we find out we were wrong about. I only like to listen to guesses that are at least based on critical analysis of a part rather then "a feeling" or "looks like." Sometimes we need to think about things before jumping headllong into an impossible project but Its a lot easier to say a tiny rod won't make power then "this valvetrain part is going to fail because I say so and I have blah blah blah gold stars on my record"

I have learned a lot about how great my valvetrain is when I thought it was garbage based on uninformed opinionated people. A few tweaks and mediocrity can be superiority. My belief on big power is that if you want it, and want to take advantage of larger turbos, your only choice is RPM or spray. Spray means when you are empty, you are done having fun. The guys who learn to rev high will be the fastest on and off spray. Interested for the day I see a 70+mm turbo on an 8 valve with a nice powerband. Its possible but I don't know if anyone is crazy enough to go for it. Should require over 8k rpms.

Whats the biggest turbo someone has run with an 8 valve (besides Stephane and his 71mm methanol car which might not have even had a 71mm when it was 8 valve).

[Shadow]

Such flattery! I don't claim to be as knowledgeble about these things as many of you. That's why I ask questions like that.

I hope that didn't come across the wrong way, as reading it back now, it sound different than when I posted it. Was just thinking out loud and in no way intended to offend you. My appologies to you sir.