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    Re: MPScan

    On another note...
    I have built a new-new layout for my win10 laptop using all digital gauges. But i can not figure out why the RPM (093) does not display realtime value. When i add as an analog gauge, it does.
    Morris is going to check out, but i just wondered if anyone else is using a digital RPM display in their layout.
    I used the didital gauge display in MPScanDroid and it works on the android device.

    I think i tried using the android layout on my laptop, but with losing all my work yesterday i can't remember. I'll have to try that again.

    Edit: just used my droid mpc for a log and the digital rpm did not display realtime value.
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    Re: MPScan

    I'm guessing MPScan doesn't work right on V6 cars yet? It didn't have a V6 option so I built a layout on SBEC T1, looks like it connects but the data is wacked, like reads 8k rpm at idle and the coolant temp read -40, o2 volts 0, map -14.7 at idle. Must pull data from different addresses from the V6 I guess.
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    Re: MPScan

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    I'm guessing MPScan doesn't work right on V6 cars yet? It didn't have a V6 option so I built a layout on SBEC T1, looks like it connects but the data is wacked, like reads 8k rpm at idle and the coolant temp read -40, o2 volts 0, map -14.7 at idle. Must pull data from different addresses from the V6 I guess.
    Correct. No setup for V6...
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    Re: MPScan

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    On another note...
    I have built a new-new layout for my win10 laptop using all digital gauges. But i can not figure out why the RPM (093) does not display realtime value. When i add as an analog gauge, it does.
    Morris is going to check out, but i just wondered if anyone else is using a digital RPM display in their layout.
    I used the didital gauge display in MPScanDroid and it works on the android device.

    I think i tried using the android layout on my laptop, but with losing all my work yesterday i can't remember. I'll have to try that again.

    Edit: just used my droid mpc for a log and the digital rpm did not display realtime value.
    For anyone interested, Morris identified the cause. In gauge settings the RPM was setup with a divisor of 1000. I guess i should have seen that!
    Made the EngineRPM_HB a user gauge, and changed divisor to 1.
    Works now.
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    Re: MPScan

    I just came in here to tell Wayne that i'm going to bother him for help when i get into all this.

    It's cool to see your enthusiasm constantly messing with all the stuff you do.

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    Re: MPScan

    agree - wayne's been a big help testing all the mpscan windows/android programs. i plan on sending him my mpscilink device to test at sdac. gotta get it all buttoned up tonight and sent off tomorrow to him.
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    Re: MPScan

    I appreciate the comments, but i feel there are so many others that contribute way more. I'm happy to try and give back in some way at least. Hopefully I can continue to get decent enough with some of this stuff to help others.

    On a windows 10 note, i found a file that contained all the data i thought i lost. Of course not before i built all new layouts! But i have the log i thought i lost which i was analyzing a WOT test.
    I was taking a 4barMAP test log early this morning on the way home from work and my laptop powered off on low battery warning. Haven't looked yet to see if it is in there somewhere, but i expect not.
    Morris: would there be a way to auto-save an active log if windows calls for a powerdown? With the auto-filename change we discussed, there wouldn't be a chance of overwrite, or confusing filenames.
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    Re: MPScan

    And, as long as we are patting each others backs, i want to publicly acknowledge how receptive Morris has been with anything I have suggested.
    The more you test and try things out, the more you can get ideas for tweaks. There hasn't been any major issues as i can see, but any little details or feature enhancements i think will be appreciated by others as well.
    I my opinion, he still deserves all of the credit!
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    Re: MPScan

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    Correct. No setup for V6...
    Well damnit, how am I supposed to log anything useful for the V6's lol. Guess I'll use my OTC scantool to at least see realtime data until we can get these stupid sbecs figured out.
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    Re: MPScan

    What's needed to make it work with the V6? Locate all the addresses of each table? My OTC isn't reading most of the table right either...
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    Re: MPScan

    edit: i got it working
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    Re: MPScan

    So with a boost button cal for LM what gauges do i need to choose to get map and afr? i tried a bunch and non of them correspond to what the car is actually doing. I have a 3 bar map. Maybe that's what is confusing things?

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    Re: MPScan

    1) MAP3BAR
    2) i do not know if the AFRwb gauge setup works for the LM. i have not looked at the T-LM template to see if Rob L ever set it up like he did for the smec.

    there is a fake gauge you can add in mpscan called AFR which ATTEMPTED to back calculate the theoretical/commanded AFR using the map (MAP3BAR) and the injector pulsewidth (INJPW). it kinda worked for the smec but i do not know if anybody ever tried it with the LM. actually, i thought i had disabled that gauge after rob came up with the new way to log the actual AFR from a wideband analog output!!
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    Re: MPScan

    I tried map3bar and it just sat at -8 no matter what the engine was doing. AFRwb does not work. At one point I had all the choices for map as a gauge and non of them did the right thing. the only gauge that works right is rpm. Oh and I can get 02 voltage to work.

    Car runs like a top and has zero codes

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    Re: MPScan

    post up your .mpc file so i can take a look at it. sounds like you may have the wrong ecu selected?!?

    AFRwb only works it you are using it with a wideband setup.

    btw, when you are running mpscan does the idle speed increase? some have reported that issue with the LM.
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    Re: MPScan

    Quote Originally Posted by going4speed View Post
    I tried map3bar and it just sat at -8 no matter what the engine was doing. AFRwb does not work. At one point I had all the choices for map as a gauge and non of them did the right thing. the only gauge that works right is rpm. Oh and I can get 02 voltage to work.

    Car runs like a top and has zero codes
    Do you have WB2NB turbonator function on the LM?
    AFRwb is set to display the readings using the 0-5v wideband output sent to the ecu.
    So, if you don't have it set up like that, i don't think you'll be able to datalog it.
    That is the way i understand it anyway.
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    Re: MPScan

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Do you have WB2NB turbonator function on the LM?
    There is no such function on LM. LM was 3 years behind SMEC.

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    Re: MPScan

    Well, then i think the LM crowd will be served with the new mpscilink which will allow for configurable analog inputs. You could then use the 0-5v wideband output to mpscilink and datalog AFRwb.

    Morris, this setup should work with LM cars, correct?
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    Re: MPScan

    Cant figure out how to upload .mpc to this website.

    I see no change in idle while it's logging...unless very minor change.

    Quote Originally Posted by wowzer View Post
    post up your .mpc file so i can take a look at it. sounds like you may have the wrong ecu selected?!?

    AFRwb only works it you are using it with a wideband setup.

    btw, when you are running mpscan does the idle speed increase? some have reported that issue with the LM.

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    Re: MPScan

    Quote Originally Posted by going4speed View Post
    Cant figure out how to upload .mpc to this website.

    I see no change in idle while it's logging...unless very minor change.
    You'll have to zip it first.
    Right click in windows and select Send To > compressed (zipped) folder.
    Then you can attach file using Manage Attachments (if using the pc based forum).
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