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    anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    looking for an 87' GLHS FSM to be exact, would like to download it to my desktop and laptop for future research of any problems that may arise.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Welcome to the Forum

    Not sure about electronic files, but ... For an '87 GLHS you'll need the 87 Mopar L-Body books and also a GLHS supplement you should be able to get from www.sdac.org

    What number car you got? pics?

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Bumping this up. It would be great if somebody could scan ANY FSM and keep an online archive. I'm not sure if Chrysler would be happy about it, but that's never stopped people before

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    I was considering doing this for my own personal needs, but there's 2 things stopping me:
    1) I can't bear to spend the endless hours needed to flip the pages and hold a book on my home scanner
    2) I'd need to sacrifice a service manual to run it through a automatic scanner @ kinkos or the like, and I don't really have spare FSM's laying around to slice the binding off of or risk having the pages chewed.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    3) copywrite laws

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    3) copywrite laws
    That would be the reason I didn't post it here.

    The first 2 are the things stopping me from even scanning a whole book in the first place.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Yep... I wonder how libraries get away with it?

    Hey wait a minute, maybe we should buy Library.com and scan everything!

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Yep... I wonder how libraries get away with it?

    Hey wait a minute, maybe we should buy Library.com and scan everything!
    I know at one of the colleges I attended the library had a deal with their ebook provider that only allowed so many licenses at once to be in use. That's how they restricted how many 'copies' of a book can be checked out at once.

    There's a whole big deal going on right now with Google and Harvard trying to do the same thing.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Welcome to the Forum

    Not sure about electronic files, but ... For an '87 GLHS you'll need the 87 Mopar L-Body books and also a GLHS supplement you should be able to get from www.sdac.org

    What number car you got? pics?
    sorry, its been a while since ive been able to get on, i have number 253, ill get some pictures in a little bit when i can, its in pretty nice shape, needs a couple things, but overall great shape. had it a month and just drove it to vegas from salt lake for MATS. the day after we got there developed a slight coolant leak that seemed to fix itself, but other than that i was actually very impressed that it made it there with no issues, and at 32 mpg's also. ill have to look into seeing if i can get those books. thanks.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Cool, sounds like a nice car!

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    why couldn't we get permission from Chrysler? you guys ever use Mitchell on demand? noticed how everything is "used with permission from Chrysler"

    maybe we jsut need to ask?
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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Quote Originally Posted by raccoon View Post
    why couldn't we get permission from Chrysler? you guys ever use Mitchell on demand? noticed how everything is "used with permission from Chrysler"

    maybe we jsut need to ask?
    Mitchell likely paid Chrysler for the rights to use it. If someone gets permission from Chrysler and we can post it without having to pay any copyright fees, I'll cut both my 87 and 89 manuals out of their binding and bring them to Kinkos.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Other than limited parts support chrysler has IMO pretty much cut all ties with our generation of cars and wants nothing to do with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by raccoon View Post
    maybe we jsut need to ask?
    Thats what the AMC guys did and were given full permission to scan and convert their FSM's and other service literature to electronic copies.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    I sent them an email about permission to distribute (freely of course) digital copies of the FSMs. I'll let you guys know when/if they respond.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Quote Originally Posted by impuresoul2k3 View Post
    I sent them an email about permission to distribute (freely of course) digital copies of the FSMs. I'll let you guys know when/if they respond.
    Seriously, post their response. I was dead serious before. If you get something from ChryCo and I'll be at kinkos within a few weeks.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Ok, they sent me an email back. I have to mail a letter and some other things to the Chrysler Public Relations department. I'll work on getting that typed up and sent out this weekend or Monday.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Quote Originally Posted by impuresoul2k3 View Post
    Ok, they sent me an email back. I have to mail a letter and some other things to the Chrysler Public Relations department. I'll work on getting that typed up and sent out this weekend or Monday.
    Sweet, now who's got 85,86,88, and all the 90+ manuals?

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Just an update, still haven't heard back from them yet. Maybe I'll give them a call tomorrow.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Ive got some 89 and 90 daytona fsm's. It would be great if we had an online fsm library for all our cars. Let us know what they say for sure. Its been a while since I talked to them but I used to talk to some people at mopar racing and dodge motorsports alot. If whoever your dealing with is being difficult, ill try to send some emails are make a call to see if there is someone else in the company we can deal with.

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    Re: anyone have a FSM in a file format?

    Ok I'll let you know if I need another contact. Right now I've just faxed everything in and haven't heard anything else. I'll be giving them a call tomorrow to see what's up.

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