So your saying I could be in the quick 16! sweet! (1 of 14)
So your saying I could be in the quick 16! sweet! (1 of 14)
-Gary Mazzone-
1986 GLHS #168
Originally Posted by sdac guy
Ahhh, thanks Barry. That does clear it up for me. I didn't race last year so I had no idea how it worked and thought it was something you signed up for.
My only issue with this is the quality of the field. I thought last year was awesome with the cutoff being ~11.7 seconds. With a 16 car field it can get in the 13's easliy again. I think I was actually the last car to qualify with a 13 sec run and though I was proud to be in the field I do not think I deserved to be there.
That makes sense to me.
Mike Marra
1986 Plymouth Horizon GLMF "The Contraption" < entertaining sponsorship offers
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Hey Kelly... if you qualified, you deserved to be there!
Mike Marra
1986 Plymouth Horizon GLMF "The Contraption" < entertaining sponsorship offers
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Still didn't feel right. I know people broke that well and others weren't running right. I went against Rob in the first round and it was over at the 60. LOL
This was in Pittsburgh.
Part of winning is surviving
Mike Marra
1986 Plymouth Horizon GLMF "The Contraption" < entertaining sponsorship offers
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In a way Kelly, it can work both ways. A slower car might get lucky and survive a few rounds, or with extreme luck win every round and come in winner or runner up. It does happen.
But if the elimination field (ladder) is set up correctly, and nobody breaks or red lights, all the slower cars will be out in the first round. What this does, is gives the spectators one extra round to see the really fast cars go down the track. And there is nothing wrong with that at all.
It is a shame, from the competitor standpoint, to see as you did, that the race is lost immediately. You entered, made the field, gave it your best shot, but it wasn't enough. Hey that's racing!
Barry
86 Shelby Lancer Prototype
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x2!!Part of winning is surviving
James Reeves - Reeves Racing
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Part of winning is survivingYes I do understand surviving and getting lucky. I have a heads up class trophy that I was not nearly the fastest car to enter but got lucky and had some competitors red light and well I'm not sure what happend to Larry in the final but he should have easily had me covered.In a way Kelly, it can work both ways. A slower car might get lucky and survive a few rounds, or with extreme luck win every round and come in winner or runner up. It does happen.
But if the elimination field (ladder) is set up correctly, and nobody breaks or red lights, all the slower cars will be out in the first round. What this does, is gives the spectators one extra round to see the really fast cars go down the track. And there is nothing wrong with that at all.
It is a shame, from the competitor standpoint, to see as you did, that the race is lost immediately. You entered, made the field, gave it your best shot, but it wasn't enough. Hey that's racing!
Barry
EDIT:
Also take into consideration this is coming from someone that very well may end up missing the 8 car field but I would feel confident of getting into a 16 car field.
Last edited by Turbo3Iroc; 05-20-2010 at 07:39 PM.
BTW, since I can't find the thread where it was discussed ...
We will have a Top Gun award.
It will be based on:
Most votes at Car Show
Best Drag Elapsed Time
Best Autocross Time
We may add Best Drag Reaction Time also, it is being discussed by those planning the award. The Top Gun will have points awarded sort of GRM Challenge style. Most points wins!
It will not cost anything to enter, and there will not be a sign up sheet. To enter the Top Gun award competition, your best drag time slip must be turned in. That will be the item that enters you in the competition.
And turning in drag time slips for your best run will be your responsibility. We will have the vote counts and the autocross times on hand (easily determined). Instructions for this will be in the info packet in the goody bags.
Barry
86 Shelby Lancer Prototype
90 Daytona Shelby VNT
91 Spirit R/T
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I think it is a great idea to have Q16 and hope that a lot of folks will go out for it. I will be giving the turtle race my full attention, but I may try for other races just because I will be able to get more runs in.
Yay!
Guess I'm going to try to autocross the OMNI!
I only have 1 Top Gun award hanging up.....and it's getting lonely!
James Reeves - Reeves Racing
World's Fastest 8 Valve - 146.88 mph
86 GLH-T 9.99 at 143.78 mph
86 GLHS #169 Mom's - complete Super 60 car
87 Shelby Z 14.16 Dad's - mostly stock, no sh*t!
88 Shelby Z 13.5 - been in storage for 15 years
03 SRT-4 12.24 Mom's
07 Charger 5.7L 12.48 Dad's
Sweet...
i disagree with the cutoof getting up to the 13s. got to give this club alot of credit. just a few of the cars that i think will be there.
slowe
rob
stillie
james FWD
pat
reeves
marra
JT
larry B
warren S
Rose
THATS JUST THE 10s!!!
then you have all of us in the 11s. the cutoff,11.7? was missed by quite a few,(i can count on both hands) within a half second.
I wouldnt of brought this up if it didnt make sense.It also keeps the faster to stay on their toes!
Bill Baker
NESDAC Pres.
Rutland,Vermont
90 Shadow VNT comp 332WHP/390WTQ
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"...We will have a Top Gun award.
It will be based on:
Most votes at Car Show
Best Drag Elapsed Time
Best Autocross Time........."
BARRY that is an excellent idea, I think all of us can really appreciate any car/driver to acheive the Top Gun prize as outlined. How will you factor/weigh each of the three catagories to arrive at a final total score?
Interesting you include most-votes for the car show, as I was going to suggest when I see you on Saturday that when you read the car show results Sunday you include the # of votes that each car received, that really tells the story of how much margin of victory there was in the votes, sure would be great if you could do that. Also, I think reading the trophy awards in the order of Third-Second-First would be a lot better than last year's announcement order of First-Second-Third. Just a thought, either way is cool.
To the point Kelly made, it was only 3 years ago that the cutoff was in the 13's (Pittsburgh when he ran the Q8). Much progress has been made in a very short time.
Barry
86 Shelby Lancer Prototype
90 Daytona Shelby VNT
91 Spirit R/T
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It will be done GRM style. I haven't ever run that so I don't know the specifics. Our team of veteran GRM participants are working out the scoring. But if I understand correctly, the first place in a category gets 100 points, then the next place gets a percentage of that based on their time being a percentage of the first place.
Most votes at car show is also how the GRM Challenge is done. This way the the Top Gun isn't necessarily tied to Best in Show, or to Spirit of SDAC. But obviously, most votes in the show will be a car that has won it's class.
We can announce the most votes number, no problem. But the problem with announcing the number of votes for multiple cars or for each car in a class, is that it can cause uneasiness or embarrassment to folks in 2nd, or 3rd place.
Say for instance we award 3 places for the Daytona class because the class has more than 8 cars entered (which is common). But if the 1st place car is a runaway, the announcement could be something like 1st place Marion Hutzel with 53 votes, 2nd place Tim Doyle with 11 votes, and 3rd place Jason Trotter with 6 votes. That isn't too kind to the 2nd and 3rd place winners, while it is the truth, it is sort of tacky to do. We have never had anyone ask us how many votes they got, so we tend to believe it is not an important detail for folks to know.
BTW, I only used those cars and owners as examples as they are Daytona owners of very nice cars that came quickly to mind. It is not necessarily the order I view them in. There was no offense intended, so none of you 3 get your panties in a bunch!
We usually announce in 3rd to 1st order. Craig makes it a point to give me the plaques stacked in that order. If we didn't do it that way last year it was an oversight.
And we are changing the way we do the voting so the counting process will go much faster. We will be going back to tearing the portion of the ballot off and putting it in an envelope with the car, then collecting the envelopes when balloting is over.
Barry
86 Shelby Lancer Prototype
90 Daytona Shelby VNT
91 Spirit R/T
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It's cool Barry... I'd be OK runner up to both Marion and Tim, wont be the first time, LOL!BTW, I only used those cars and owners as examples as they are Daytona owners of very nice cars that came quickly to mind. It is not necessarily the order I view them in. There was no offense intended, so none of you 3 get your panties in a bunch!
Cool on the Top GunI remember those from earlier SDAC's ... Hmmm.. to auto cross or not to auto cross
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Yes we have and for the record I am not against the 16 car field. I just would hate to see us take a step back if a few dont show and a few break or arent running well as like happened in Pittsburgh. With as few of overall cars we get about 1/3 of them will be in the Q16 bracket.
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