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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Opps, sorry...Now Carroll thinks he has a both, a 341 and a 351 lol.
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    This is the fun part of interneting ppls own interpretation of what they Think others are saying! Simon, I am fully aware of what an HE341 is. I am also aware that Carroll has been running one on his car that he "thought" was an HE351. The only Q left is Does Carroll know what an HE341 is? (or does he think it's an HY35?)
    Yep, good old internet, hehehe,

    I almost used an HE341 until I posted up asking how to spot one, phew.
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by rx2mazda View Post
    Opps, sorry...Now Carroll thinks he has a both, a 341 and a 351 lol.
    Thinks? From what you were saying that's exactly what you have!

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Yep, good old internet, hehehe,

    I almost used an HE341 until I posted up asking how to spot one, phew.
    Phew? Nothing wrong with an HE341....just ask Carroll!

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

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    4 wheel disc.
    Thanks. I didn't realize that there was a difference between them.

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post

    Phew? Nothing wrong with an HE341....just ask Carroll!
    No, but I wanted and paid for an HE351,
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    I realize that but there is a thing as an HE341, I got the gyst that Shadow didn't think there was. I was merely pointing out there is an actual HE341,

    No, the HY35 has a V-band outlet but its a bolt on, unlike the HE which are huge built in V-bands, and a different compressor housing, you know that, sheesh,
    Ok im confused. I was looking at a Holset chart the other day(right from Holset) and they show the HY35W for the 03-04s and the HE351CW for the 04.5-06s. The turbo that I sold Carroll was an HY35W off an 04. I thought it was an HE351 but found out differently after I got one of my own. The turbine housings on both of them will interchange with the only differences being the flange thinkness and the size of the WG hole(3/4 on the HY and 7/8 on the HE). They both take the same V-bands on both ends. The compressor on the HE351 in physically 1/2" bigger on the OD than the HY35W so the HY clears better. Performance wise the compressor wheel on the HE is bigger and thats about it. I had an HY35W on my car and just swapped out the center and compressor to an HE351 and didnt notice a difference.

    Now what is the HE341? Is that what others call the 03-04 HY35W????

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Carroll

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Lotashelbys View Post
    Now what is the HE341? Is that what others call the 03-04 HY35W????
    Yes. For some time ppl were calling all of these three turbos HY35's. Then ppl started to realize that there was a difference with the 04-07's (larger compressor wheel) and started to realize that it was actually a different turbo...HE351. The only diff between the early HY35's and the 03-04's is the packaging (as far as I know) so ppl were still calling them HY35's, cause that's basically what they are. In recent years it has come to light that they are actually HE341's. I don't know where this info came from, Chrysler diesel option list or right from Holset. (I would imagine it would be the latter though)

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    you guys kill me. LOL. I spent many nights without sleep worring about if the T3 would fit. And i ALREADY painted my engine bay!
    I thought it would be like "Monkey fu&%$%g a football" but it ended up being like "going to bed with your socks on", not a big deal. The turbo selection on the other hand might. mine is a stage 2,TO4E. Holset? on your own...
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by 30 PSI SHADOW View Post
    you guys kill me. LOL. I spent many nights without sleep worring about if the T3 would fit. And i ALREADY painted my engine bay!
    I thought it would be like "Monkey fu&%$%g a football" but it ended up being like "going to bed with your socks on", not a big deal. The turbo selection on the other hand might. mine is a stage 2,TO4E. Holset? on your own...
    Bill...what radiator do you have in there? I can't make it out.

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    scirrocco alum race rad with dual fan
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    fits in nicely, and cools awesome!
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Lotashelbys View Post

    Now what is the HE341? Is that what others call the 03-04 HY35W????
    Externally, they look identical, except the 351 has the electrical solenoid on the compressor housing.

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

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    Bill...what radiator do you have in there? I can't make it out.
    Why?!

    Getting scared and think about putting your TIII in the GLHS so you can have a chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rx2mazda View Post
    Why?!

    Getting scared and think about putting your TIII in the GLHS so you can have a chance?
    No, I want to beat you with two for half of the price.

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    No, I want to beat you with two for half of the price.


    Sorry Rob...
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    No, I want to beat you with two for half of the price.
    Oh SNAP!
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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by rx2mazda View Post


    Sorry Rob...
    No problem, have some fun with it!

    Quote Originally Posted by 30 PSI SHADOW View Post
    fits in nicely, and cools awesome!
    That is very close to the Griffin I'm running in my Charger. Only difference is mine has the filler and inlet and outlet exactly opposite of yours. Yours looks like it works better with the TIII set up that way.

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Lotashelbys View Post
    I had an HY35W on my car and just swapped out the center and compressor to an HE351 and didnt notice a difference.
    At what boost level? The HE351 Should be worth 20-30WHP over the HY35 at 20+psi if your set-up can flow it.

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    Re: TIII Shelby Charger

    Well, spent most of the wknd welding holes shut and drilling new ones. I keep forgetting this is a NON-A/C car that's getting A/C. Figured it was time to change that around. Pulled out the mtr/trans and went to town. Welded up the old heater box hole in the top of the sill pan and the old brake booster holes while we were at it. Now she's ready for A/C. (I would have posted pics, but it's very boring and alot to do about nothing kind of stuff....you wouldn't like it.)

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