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    Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Okay well for a week now I have been removing cutting relocating and putting on all the parts I have be hording. Dyno day is coming up. Turbos Unleashed is having Dyno days Dec 4 and 5 here in california. I will be bringing my car so if Im gonna get a new cal I figure its time to install all those new shinny and not so shinny parts before the tune. So I started by removing the battery and holder then the radiator I got out high speed cutter and moved the battery in front of the radiator. See pictures. I removed my Giant spearco and what seemed like 6 feet of tubing and Started making bracets for my new Water to Air IC see my aviatar. I am also switching to E85 so I installed my 120# injectors. Yes they are 120# click on thepictures and see the injector number. With E85 you need to flow 30 percent more fuel. I was running 83#s to the tune of 7.30 96.8 mph in the 1/8th with 1.66 60 foot time's. While I was installing my new injectors I took the opportunity to install my New Custom upper intake and a 58mm throotel body. Also on the table is a 22 quart water tank to cool the Water to Air IC. It will be holding dry ice at the track. Because of the E85 I bought and installed a new gas tank. They say E85 really cleans your tank out so for saftey I installed a new one and added a secondary filter just before the fuel rail. While the radiator was out I choose to replace it with an Omni AC radiator larger and safer with exstra cooling capacity. Also I replaced the old alternator with the smaller Nippondens one. This help's the radiator fit. I will be adding more pictures monday but here are a few for starters.

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    That looks pretty good. Do you have any pics of the whole car? I don't think I have ever seen any before that I can recall.

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    I will post some monday oh look on youtube shelby 924 at Irwindale. I will go look for the link.

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    Ya pics would be sweet.
    Sounds like a crazy set up.
    What numbers are you looking for?

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    10 seconds would be good. View the car at November 13 Irwindale. Do note I had 2 stupid people with me running the Mega cab truck in the races. They were to busy to get the 7.44 pass at 95. The week before I ran 7.30 at 96.8 when the next morning I was doing a visual before giving a neighbor A lil ride I noticed my air cleaner was not attached to the turbo inlet. Opps. So in the vid you are watching I could not remove the air cleaner. I needed a wrench the clamp was in an impossible spot. So now Im upgrading to a 4 inch air cleaner set up. Because of the GT30DBB with the anti surge housing the turbo inlet is 4 inch might as well use a 4 inch air tube and cleaner.

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by amoparacer View Post
    10 seconds would be good. View the car at November 13 Irwindale. Do note I had 2 stupid people with me running the Mega cab truck in the races. They were to busy to get the 7.44 pass at 95. The week before I ran 7.30 at 96.8 when the next morning I was doing a visual before giving a neighbor A lil ride I noticed my air cleaner was not attached to the turbo inlet. Opps. So in the vid you are watching I could not remove the air cleaner. I needed a wrench the clamp was in an impossible spot. So now Im upgrading to a 4 inch air cleaner set up. Because of the GT30DBB with the anti surge housing the turbo inlet is 4 inch might as well use a 4 inch air tube and cleaner.
    Deffinatly feed a 4" inlet with a 4" mandrel intake tract. Went I set out to run 10's 4 years ago my formula looked like this; 100+mph in the 1/8th + 1.7X or better 60' ending with a 130mph+ trap speed = 10's. Things I've learned since then, 330' time is more important than 60', time lost during shifting hurts you WAY more trying to run 10's than 11's!

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    I am new to these turbo mopars, but not to drag racing, so go easy on me.

    I fail to see how the mods that you have made in post#1 are going to gain you 2 seconds in the 1/4.

    IIRC, 7.30s are about a 12.00 1/4 mile.

    E85, is def going to help and the added cooling and new intercooler will help, but I do not see 10 seconds, (11.40s maybe) but I know nothing about your vehicle.

    Can you post some info in your sig? Thanks!

    Good Luck!

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    I think it is a pretty lofty goal too 54 but that's what goals are for right? Set the bar high... 7:36 is already about an 11:40 and with the dyno tune and reconfiguring the inlet for the turbo I think +50 HP is pretty resonable. that should get him close plus he did a few chassis mods for a better launch soooo

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Im not sure how to answer this poll, because none of the options are answers to a question.

    But that said.

    I'm wondering if you will need that extra cooling capacity when running E85, as that will cause the engine to run much cooler itself.

    But I am wondering about the intercooler. 22 quarts of fluid, plus what is in the intercooler and hoses, plus the pump. You are probably going to be adding 50+ lbs of weight to the car over a good air-to-ar setup, on a car that is running mostly alcohol for fuel anyway. Im not sure if the pros outweigh the cons. I have seen some turbo drag cars running on alcohol that don't bother with an intercooler at all.
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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Two biggest things that stick out right off the top of my head. 1st, is it a 5 spd or auto? If it's auto than you need pay NO attention to my formula.....it's for stick cars. 2nd, how is your exhaust running off that turbo? If you don't have at least a full 3" mandrel exit coming off your turbo it's going to be harder.

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    Im not sure how to answer this poll, because none of the options are answers to a question.

    But that said.

    I'm wondering if you will need that extra cooling capacity when running E85, as that will cause the engine to run much cooler itself.

    But I am wondering about the intercooler. 22 quarts of fluid, plus what is in the intercooler and hoses, plus the pump. You are probably going to be adding 50+ lbs of weight to the car over a good air-to-ar setup, on a car that is running mostly alcohol for fuel anyway. Im not sure if the pros outweigh the cons. I have seen some turbo drag cars running on alcohol that don't bother with an intercooler at all.
    +10

    Seems like you went backwards on the IC mods. Like, if you were switching from E85 to gas you should upgrade your IC not the other way around. But hey, cooler charges never "HURT" but the weight will.

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    If your goal is to be in the ten second club do what eveyone else seems do be doing lately, just install NOS, and get it over with. Or better yet 16V with NOS.
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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by 2.216VTurbo View Post
    I think it is a pretty lofty goal too 54 but that's what goals are for right? Set the bar high... 7:36 is already about an 11:40 and with the dyno tune and reconfiguring the inlet for the turbo I think +50 HP is pretty resonable. that should get him close plus he did a few chassis mods for a better launch soooo
    I don't think the goal is lofty, just the present changes he's made and expecting 10s with said changes. A 7.36 is closer to a 12.00 or 12.10 by my calculations.

    I was also thinking about the larger radiator and A/W IC adding additional weight. Water alone weighs 8 lbs per gallon.

    Again, good luck and post some specs on the engine, tranny suspension, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 54inches View Post
    I don't think the goal is lofty, just the present changes he's made and expecting 10s with said changes. A 7.36 is closer to a 12.00 or 12.10 by my calculations.
    What formula are you using? The usual factor is 1.57. That puts a 7.30 1/8 mile at 11.46 1/4 mile. That's less than half a second from 10's. Granted he's making a lot of changes at once and it may take a few trials to get it sorted out but there's defiitely enough hardware to do it.

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by mock_glh View Post
    What formula are you using? The usual factor is 1.57. That puts a 7.30 1/8 mile at 11.46 1/4 mile. That's less than half a second from 10's. Granted he's making a lot of changes at once and it may take a few trials to get it sorted out but there's defiitely enough hardware to do it.
    Oh you are right, I am not sure why I have 1.65 stuck on the brain, but it is 1.57.

    I digress, apologize and I wait the scheduling of my public flogging!

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by 54inches View Post
    Oh you are right, I am not sure why I have 1.65 stuck on the brain, but it is 1.57.

    I digress, apologize and I wait the scheduling of my public flogging!
    I'm not sure about calculations...

    Quote Originally Posted by 54inches View Post
    I don't think the goal is lofty, just the present changes he's made and expecting 10s with said changes. A 7.36 is closer to a 12.00 or 12.10 by my calculations....
    From our database... 7.36 1/8 gets you 11.20's

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    OKay lets get this right My car has run the best at 7.309 at 96.87 (not 7.36) 7.309 at 96.8

    but that will all be short lived because on saturday I will be at california speed way 1/4 mile and let it all hang loss with my new stuff and my new dyno tune by Turbos Unleashed Paul Velliky. Im looking for 7.1 at 102 AND 10.90 AT 135 THERE NOW YOU ALL HAVE ME WITH MY PANTIES IN A BUNCH.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by amoparacer View Post
    OKay lets get this right My car has run the best at 7.309 at 96.87 (not 7.36) 7.309 at 96.8

    but that will all be short lived because on saturday I will be at california speed way 1/4 mile and let it all hang loss with my new stuff and my new dyno tune by Turbos Unleashed Paul Velliky. Im looking for 7.1 at 102 AND 10.90 AT 135 THERE NOW YOU ALL HAVE ME WITH MY PANTIES IN A BUNCH.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by amoparacer View Post
    OKay lets get this right My car has run the best at 7.309 at 96.87 (not 7.36) 7.309 at 96.8
    Says something for hooking up!!! My SRT ran a 7.8 at 96.8mph last week.


    Quote Originally Posted by amoparacer View Post
    but that will all be short lived because on saturday I will be at california speed way 1/4 mile and let it all hang loss with my new stuff and my new dyno tune by Turbos Unleashed Paul Velliky. Im looking for 7.1 at 102 AND 10.90 AT 135 THERE NOW YOU ALL HAVE ME WITH MY PANTIES IN A BUNCH.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    102 in the 1/8 IMO isn't going to net you a 135 in the 1/4 unless you are changing something once you get down the track some. Like more boost or a shot of the gas.
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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    One more thing.... Anyone else running 10's with power wondows?

    Lynn, PM me if you want me to clean up your project log thread and move this side trip discussion to a new thread!
    I ran almost 97mph in the 1/8th. In a heavy SRT, front power windows, the spare tire, a 10" sub with AMP, and the wife's purse. Does that count for anything??
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    Re: Shelby 924 gets some upgrades 10 second club

    Quote Originally Posted by amoparacer View Post
    OKay lets get this right My car has run the best at 7.309 at 96.87 (not 7.36) 7.309 at 96.8

    but that will all be short lived because on saturday I will be at california speed way 1/4 mile and let it all hang loss with my new stuff and my new dyno tune by Turbos Unleashed Paul Velliky. Im looking for 7.1 at 102 AND 10.90 AT 135 THERE NOW YOU ALL HAVE ME WITH MY PANTIES IN A BUNCH.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    If you go 7.1 @ 102 and finish with 135mph trap I will say you WILL see a 10.

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