To what is your normal limiter set?
To what is your normal limiter set?
Launch control is at 4800, flatshift limits to 5000 for the next shift (even if im shifting faster than the motor takes to wind down to 5K) . im shifting just shy of 7000 and hard rev limit is at 7200
Well had a good day at the T-100 last night. got 3 runs in before eliminations and mas faster each run. Sadly i didn't make it past the 1st round as "Lucy" rolled back out of stage and i got an auto redlightI did however bust my PR by 2 tenths the following Time rial pass
Interestingly enough, i did not change my setup at all from last week. no change in launch limiter and no change in slick pressure. i wonder if the track was just REALLY sticky last week (BTW, the left lane 60' sensor was out so thats why some runs have no 60' time)
The launches felt real good, no bogging, just some spinning as i came out of the hole. I do have some issues i need to address though, my ghetto gas tank strap fix needed ghetto rigging again (ordering new gas straps shortly) and i broke part of the front motor mount bracket (i'll get pics tonight) which caused the starter ground wire to break. i didn't know this until "Lucy" wouldn't start in the staging lanes for the 2nd trial run. luckily i had some spare wire and connectors in the trunk so i whipped up a quick fix for now.
1st Trial
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mpg
0.206------0.000-----9.489--------72.75----12.378-----14.805---92.89
2nd trial
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mpg
0.123-----2.164-------9.458-------74.32----12.339-----14.759---93.05
3rd trial
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mpg
0.119------0.000-----9.346------73.68------12.211----14.632-----92.93
1st bracket - No time
4th trial
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mpg
0.118------2.157------9.289-----75.60------12.132----14.530-----93.89
5th trial (missed 3rd)
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4--------1/4mpg
0.114------2.155------9.485-----70.12------12.486-----14.962----91.40
double post
Sounds good! But.. there is no ground wire to the starter. You probably mean solenoid wire.
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
yeah, that one lol. Im looking into either beefing up the front mount or making a custom stronger one at this point i think
Yeh the 3.0 one certainly seems weak compared to the boxed in 2.2/2.5 one. I tripped over the front mount bracket of a 3.0 i have sitting on the ground and that was enough to bend it
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
Yeah, they are not the best and beefiest thing out there...*shrug* UPGRADE TIME!
Well, i got a couple fixes/upgrades done to "Lucy" this weekend. I re-did the front motor mount bracket...out of 5/16 plate steelthat sucker ain't gonna break NOW! lol Once installed the new mount works GREAT! I can actually drive the car without it jerking so much now. Can't wait to see what no motor movement does at the track on weds
Also replaced by gas tank straps as one mount point had rusted off in the late summer 09 and lasted til now on zip-ties. i just drilled holes and put new bolts through. Also replaced the trunk struts after haven't the trunk come down on my wrist on the 21st...not anymore.
Broken motor mount - was allowing the motor to rotate and move...not good
Created initial template and sawed broken section off of old mount. This is also a comparison of the 5/16" plate steel vs the maybe 1/8" steel the old mount was made of...
Roughed out shape after hitting the plate steel with a hand band saw and a bench grinder compared to old section
Welded together (3 passes on each side to get enough heat penetration) not too shabby if i say so myself
Painted up and ready to install
Installed...i don't think the motor is going anywhere now
New tank straps installed before the tank fell out and something bad happened. Had to pry the old stud on the pass side off as it was so rusted away and the drivers side had already fallen off. Just drilled through the sheet steel and used grade 5 bolts and washers under the rear seat mount to sinch up the straps. All good now.
Well i've been slacking in putting up my times. I woulda posted the last 2 trips to the track but i can't seem to find my slips from the other week, ill look for them and post them if i find em... (woulda been 3 but we got rained out last week
Here is this week's outing:
I have upped my PR again as well, slowly getting the setup dialed in after almost 90 passes in the car. 14.461@94.8 I upped the slick pressure back to 20psi and it helped out, i am getting off the line a lot better than at 18psi. I also took 2nd in class again
1st Trial
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mph
.218-------2.231-------9.422-------74.55----12.248-----14.634------94.36
2nd Trial
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mph
.009-------2.151-------9.297-------74.81----12.112-----14.486------94.77
1st round eliminations - vs a 15.8 dialed honda hatch. Won on the brakes
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mph-----dial
.315-------2.245-------9.354-------74.98----12.162-----14.545------91.96-----14.4
2nd round eliminations - vs a 14.5 dialed honda hatch. Won on the brakes again...apparently he missed 3rd
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mph-----dial
.304-------2.141-------9.262-------74.94----12.072-----14.482------89.06-----14.4
3rd round eliminations - vs a 13.1 dialed turbo honda coupe (many repeat class winner, clean car
RT----------60' ---------1/8-------1/8mph----1000' ------1/4-------1/4mph-----dial
.344-------2.190-------9.286-------75.22----12.089-----14.461------94.80-----14.4
well, last nite was good and bad. Made it to the semi finals in class (beat a beretta and got a buy run on a no-show) was staged at the line against a 16.85 elantra on a 14.4, tree hits the 3rd amber and dumped the clutch. POP and i went nowhere
Gotta love the addage "if your not breaking parts, your not going fast enough" lol
Well, i was able to tear the axles out last night and i did shear the splined end right off the passenger side axle. Luckily a long screwdriver and a few "love taps" were all i needed to get the stub piece out of the diff.
I was able to get new (not remaned) axles for 69.99 ea (GSP brand *shrug* lifetime warranty FTW though). they look ok and weigh about the same even though the axle shafts look thinner, i think they are a solid rod but im not 100% positive. the only issue i can see with the new axles is that the machining on the inner splined end wasn't finished as nicely as the stock axle. I was unable to get the axle to spline into the diff last night as there were riges intruding into the splines that i still need to clean up to get it to slide in easily. I haven't examined the hub splines yet.
The left side LOOKED ok, but im not going to chance it and im replacing that one as well. I also poured about 2 quarts of oil through the trans and diff to clear out any major metal shards (manual drain plug mod FTW here) She should be back up and on the road tonight or tomorrow and DEFINITELY be back for the points race next week as i am currently 3rd in points
Sheared axle
Old vs New
Splining shoulder differences
Good job breaking those axles.
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
thanks lol i think the axles were fatigued from all the street tire abuse when i first went to the track 3 years ago. Also AFAICT they were the original axles anyways. I only snapped the left axle but replaced both to be safe.
As for the launching. I think i have too much traction with the current setup. I'll see about upping the launch limiter up to drop me at peak torque. Currently its set at 4800-5000 and the slicks at 20psi. I'll try and log a pass on weds and see what sort of rpm drop im getting on launch.
Well, was a decent night out at the track. Got 2 trials and through round 1 before a SEVERE thunderstorm with a tornado warning swept through and put a damper on the evening. I upped the launch RPM to 6000 and dropped the slick pressure to 18 psi. I did notice that even launching at 6000, my rpms drop all the way to about 3000 before picking up again.
i DID cut a best 60' and a new PR so not a bad night (and i won my round so 20 points for the night )
Run 1
RT______60'___1/8 mile___1/8 MPH____1000'____¼ mile ¼ mile mph
0.346___2.069__9.293_____74.24______12.129___14.55 2____93.39
Run 2
RT______60'___1/8 mile___1/8 MPH____1000'____¼ mile ¼ mile mph
0.195___2.117__9.379_____74.38______12.206___14.58 8____93.88
Round 1 (New PR!!! )
RT______60'___1/8 mile___1/8 MPH____1000'____¼ mile ¼ mile mph
0.465___2.019__9.184_____74.85______11.997___14.36 8____94.36
And here are a couple from the previous 2 outings
5/19
and 2 of the runs prior to snapping my axle on 5/26
Last edited by Shadow24; 06-03-2010 at 12:08 PM. Reason: Updated with vids
Well, didn't get anywhere really on points. made 1 test pass and on the 2nd test pass, the BRAND NEW driver's side axle's outer CV joint destroyed itself. It didn't tear the boot so i'll see what the damage is when i take it apart...again
At least i got 10 points for passing tech...
1st test pass - Hot car, high humidity, 90+ ambient temperature
_RT____60'____1/8 ET____1/8 MPH____1/4 ET____1/4 MPH
.113___2.032___9.243______74.04______14.471____94. 13
That makes me think of that funny letdown sound thats like Bwaah Bwaaah Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah...At least i got 10 points for passing tech...
anyway, stick with it, seems your times are slowly, incrementally getting better and better.
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
Yeah, the driver mod is slowly catching up to the car's potential lol
Here's the snapped axle. Broke just behind the outboard tripod. Got it warranty replaced although Advance has a catch on the GSP new axles. If the inboard shows boot damage or separation, the warranty is void. Don't know why but *shrug*
If this one breaks im gonna be pissed. Im already looking for a set of sanginaw's from a local J/Y just in case. If the stock sanginaw's took 260K miles and over 100 drag runs including a fair number of those wheel hopping on street tires and a "new" axle snaps on the 2nd run it kinda makes you wonder...
The replacement axle looks like they used a different shaft as it is beefier in the center. I'll post a pic up tonight before i install it.
Well, I had bad luck at the track on weds...snapped the passenger side axle right before the outboard CV joint...only got a whopping 10 points for passing tech.
I did go to the pick-n-pull and got 1 set of saginaw axles from a vert p-Body v6 5-speed. I am thinking about going back tomorrow for another set of axles and possibly the transmission as well ....(i think its a 50% off day so...)
Im hoping these saginaws will last a long time and im going to see about returning the new ones and trying to get my money back, but we'll see. Need to get back into the hunt for season champion in class.
Im trying to keep a look out for an AWD caravan as well to snag the t-case and rear end from for the eventual AWD project, but i think that will be out of budget at this time
Why do you keep snapping axles? Are you using P-body axles or axles from a V6 Eclipse?
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