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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by "Top Fuel" Bender View Post
    Sexy !!!!!!!!! Don't forget to check hood clearance so I touch up that spacer for you
    If I make it up to Craig's Sat night I'll bring it with me so you can see what needs done for now. Then we can test fit it again. The stupid air box on these things sits up pretty high, it might need some height taken off it.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by blk86trbo View Post
    How in the heck have I missed this thread? Great work so far Scott, and thanks for posting all the pics!



    Definitely ended up looking good...nice little custom touch



    Is there a supercharger on that shelf too?
    No supercharger on the shelf. I entertained that idea and couldn't find one. Then Billy Lofink put the dual carb mani up for sale and I grabbed that. In reality the dual carb mani is probably a ways off. I have zero experience tuning a carb car (when I had my first Turismo in 1989-1993 all I basically did was change oil on it) so I want to fool around with that first.

    The dual carb mani might go on with a header at some point. I'd like to see if I can have someone fab a short tube header. You can still get long tube ones through summit but I've heard horror stories about those cracking.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    poor scott having his midlife crisis lol

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by JDAWG View Post
    poor scott having his midlife crisis lol
    Yeah, maybe I'll try and hook up with a 22 yr old blonde next .....
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    What was the first year like 82? I remember my Dad working at a Chrysler Plymouth Dodge dealer in W.Va and my mom having a black demo. It was Christmas and we had gone shopping and out to lunch, I apparently had a "bug" and threw up in the front seat and myself. LOL, what a memory! Nice looking car.

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    awsome work, what kind of power did the h.o 2.2 have stock?

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Yeah, maybe I'll try and hook up with a 22 yr old blonde next .....
    Are you going to project log that too?

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Are you going to project log that too?
    No, I can't give away all my secrets.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chaos View Post
    What was the first year like 82? I remember my Dad working at a Chrysler Plymouth Dodge dealer in W.Va and my mom having a black demo. It was Christmas and we had gone shopping and out to lunch, I apparently had a "bug" and threw up in the front seat and myself. LOL, what a memory! Nice looking car.
    The first year was 1982. There is a nice page somewhere on the web that has production numbers for the Charger and Turismo 2.2s. I have the link somewhere, if I can find it I'll post it.

    The 85 and 86 Charger and Turismo 2.2s, if they had the 5spd, came standard with the 110hp (at 5600 rpm) and 129ft-lb torque (3600 rpm) high output engine. This engine had 9.6:1 compression and is the same engine as that the base GLH and Shelby Charger got. Automatic cars got the 96hp base 2.2.

    The 82-84, it looks like the 1.6 or 1.7 was standard for the base Charger and the only way to get the 2.2 was to get one with the 2.2 package. Whether it was 5spd or automatic you got the 96hp 2.2. I have 1983-86 Charger/Turismo brochures right in front of me as I type this which is where the information is coming from.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Love the valve cover on there! Don't make me wanna get another carbed car. I know of a blue '84 GLH screaming for me to buy it LOL.

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by Abkshelby View Post
    Love the valve cover on there! Don't make me wanna get another carbed car. I know of a blue '84 GLH screaming for me to buy it LOL.
    I always wanted an 84 GLH, I like the look with just fog lights and swiss cheese wheels.

    This is the list of performance mods I've done so far.

    Weber 32/36 DFEV carb
    UD pulley
    88 TBI roller cam w/ 110 deg cam sprocket
    Mildly ported G head with oversized MP intake and exhaust valves
    NGK plugs
    Magnecor wires
    K&N drop in
    Timing will be advanced to 14 deg
    180 t-stat
    Air pump removed
    Remove flapper in air box

    Future mods include 2.5 exhaust and either a vac adv distributor or a Mallory distributor. Hopefully it will run fairly well.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Ok, so I added something unexpected to the project list. Two weekends ago I parted out a car. In the back of the car was an Alpine subwoofer. I also just sold my Dakota Sport convertible. The Dakota had an amp in it the previous owner put in but I never could find a sub to fit the std cab and never hooked the amp up.

    Out came the amp, in to the Turismo went the amp and the subwoofer. I ended up buying a new head unit that had RCA outputs on the back to make the install easier and the old aftermarket head unit will make its way into my GLHS. The amp installation was pretty easy, just tedious running wires.

    I can now shake my garage with the Beastie Boys .... YES!

    I have a couple more little things to tidy up and hope to crank it over for the first time here shortly.
    [B]Scott[/B] 86 GLHS #408 88 Shadow ES 92 Spirit R/T 04 SRT-4

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Man it's looking great! Keep up the good work, and please play "Intergalactic"

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Thanks!

    Intergalactic will def be on the play list, but given my current state of dating I'll probably kick it off with She's Crafty haha.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    ....given my current state of dating I'll probably kick it off with She's Crafty haha.
    Hit it!

    Forget it!

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    About the long tube hooker headers cracking:

    I had one on my Horizon for a long time with no cracking. Even sold it in good condition when I was done with it.

    I think the problem with the cracking comes from engine movement. I solved this problem by keeping the engine from moving at all. This was before the days of poly motor mounts. We welded an L-bracket to the K frame and linked it to the cylinder head with a long steel rod. There was then no fore-aft engine movement. I also made sure to use a good flex joint between the header and the exhaust. I think once you do this or something like this, , you should be fine with the long tube header.
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Mike - thanks for the input. I had read something similar in another post on TD but if I recall it was by someone whose credibility I at the time likened to that of John Edwards.

    I really like the flex joint idea though, didn't think of that.

    It would have been ideal to put the header on now when I had the head off but it will have to wait for now. The next upgrade will be a 2.5 exhaust.

    Maybe I can get JT to make me a short tube NA header and then have a short tube / ported stocker throwdown!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Ok, so I added something unexpected to the project list. Two weekends ago I parted out a car. In the back of the car was an Alpine subwoofer. I also just sold my Dakota Sport convertible. The Dakota had an amp in it the previous owner put in but I never could find a sub to fit the std cab and never hooked the amp up.

    Out came the amp, in to the Turismo went the amp and the subwoofer. I ended up buying a new head unit that had RCA outputs on the back to make the install easier and the old aftermarket head unit will make its way into my GLHS. The amp installation was pretty easy, just tedious running wires.

    I can now shake my garage with the Beastie Boys .... YES!

    I have a couple more little things to tidy up and hope to crank it over for the first time here shortly.
    Every car needs some bump in the trunk.
    Plus on our hatch backs you dont need a lot of sub for a nice clean sound
    keep up the good work

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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Maybe I can get JT to make me a short tube NA header and then have a short tube / ported stocker throwdown!!
    THIS I'VE GOT TO SEE !!!!!!!
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    Re: 85 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 High Output

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    I can now shake my garage with the Beastie Boys .... YES!
    Paul's Boutique = BEST BEASTIES EVER!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    About the long tube hooker headers cracking:

    I had one on my Horizon for a long time with no cracking. Even sold it in good condition when I was done with it.

    I think the problem with the cracking comes from engine movement. I solved this problem by keeping the engine from moving at all. This was before the days of poly motor mounts. We welded an L-bracket to the K frame and linked it to the cylinder head with a long steel rod. There was then no fore-aft engine movement. I also made sure to use a good flex joint between the header and the exhaust. I think once you do this or something like this, , you should be fine with the long tube header.
    I've heard about issues with the header cracking at the flange. I've welded/reinforced mine right where the runners meet the flange....But I like the support idea.....

    +2 on flex joint.

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