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    Which one is correct?

    Just looking into the 27c256 chips for making cal's, the Eprom's that are once and done no erase.

    But Mouser supplies two of them, so which one is correct? The only difference I see is the access time, one is 45ns and one is 70ns. Since the 45ns is cheaper and obviously faster, I was gonna just go with that one unless it won't work. Anybody know?

    45ns-
    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...hpEAPCDtWXU%3d

    70ns-
    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...80jBz050W6M%3d

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    bump.....I'd like to know too!

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    I'm pretty sure it's the 45ns, but I want to be positive.

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    From the 2 minutes I spent looking at the datasheet all the address and i/o lines look like they line up and the only difference is the access time, so either should be OK. I would just order 1 and try it before spending a bunch of money on many chips.

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by moparzrule View Post
    The only difference I see is the access time
    Quote Originally Posted by risen View Post
    the only difference is the access time

    Umm...thanks for the insight

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    fwiw - i just bought a couple of the sst27sf512 chips from xenocron which seem to work great plus they are rewriteable.

    http://www.xenocron.com/eprom-chip-s...gle-p-149.html

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    fwiw - i just bought a couple of the sst27sf512 chips from xenocron which seem to work great plus they are rewriteable. just have to make sure you use an offset of 8000H

    http://www.xenocron.com/eprom-chip-s...gle-p-149.html

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by moparzrule View Post
    Umm...thanks for the insight
    I confirmed what you previously thought. Also, I matched the address and i/o lines up to what our ecus need, that should be all that's needed as long as they're 120ns or under. If you already did that, you should have mentioned it. Now, did you want something more in depth than that? If so, please be a little more descriptive next time.

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by wowzer View Post
    fwiw - i just bought a couple of the sst27sf512 chips from xenocron which seem to work great plus they are rewriteable. just have to make sure you use an offset of 8000H

    http://www.xenocron.com/eprom-chip-s...gle-p-149.html
    Yes I just bought a pack of 5 off them and got them the other day, but those are for myself. They also were NOT new chips, they were used. Every single one of them had data on them and needed erased, and only two of them seemed to want to erase. So yeah I got 3 dead chips out of 5.
    I'm looking at getting the Eprom's for cal's for other people. This way they don't have to worry about shipping a chip back to me for a re-cal if needed, I'll just send them another one and it didn't cost as much.

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by risen View Post
    I confirmed what you previously thought. Also, I matched the address and i/o lines up to what our ecus need, that should be all that's needed as long as they're 120ns or under. If you already did that, you should have mentioned it. Now, did you want something more in depth than that? If so, please be a little more descriptive next time.
    I kinda figured that was assumed when I said the only difference I could find was the access time.
    The highlighted portion is what I needed to know. But how did you come up with the 120ns figure?

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by moparzrule View Post
    I kinda figured that was assumed when I said the only difference I could find was the access time.
    The highlighted portion is what I needed to know. But how did you come up with the 120ns figure?
    I'm not in the habit of assuming anything and I didn't think a question based solely upon the access time warranted a post. The maximum access time has been posted a couple of places. Basically, if a 90ns or 70ns chip works, anything faster will put the output lines up/down in the correct amount of time.

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    Re: Which one is correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by risen View Post
    I'm not in the habit of assuming anything and I didn't think a question based solely upon the access time warranted a post. The maximum access time has been posted a couple of places. Basically, if a 90ns or 70ns chip works, anything faster will put the output lines up/down in the correct amount of time.
    I've never seen anything about it posted.

    Good to know. If you don't know you don't know. Apparently you know that faster access time doesn't screw anything up, I and probably many other people didn't know that.

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