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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    So do those 350Z headers have the same bolt pattern/spacing to fit on a 3.0L SOHC without modification?

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Looks like they would bolt on with little or no mods (easier to slot/grind/drill mounting holes in steel than cast iron) but the port shape doesnt look exactly right. If the height of those ports is at least as high as the 3.0 ports the extra hanging off the sides wont hurt much.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    I want to say the bolt pattern is different,
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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Bolt pattern is a little different. I believe they are 1.75" primaries, 2.25" secondaries, so even with the smashed oval they might fit. I am going to attempt to cheat as much as I can with the flange that is there before I attach a real 3.0 flange. I recently saw some "nice" looking headers that someone started producing for the 3000gt's and I thought I should just order a set with sohc flanges (single turbo style "pro drag") but I realized that the runner closest to the collector was VERY short. That made me barf for the kinda money it would cost. That actually motivated me to make the purchase that I have been avoiding. These are equal length (surely not perfect) and to me, that is a good thing for pushing a stock shortblock. Keep every cylinder as close as possible in output.

    Supposedly the bore spacing is the same. I am hoping the only real problem will be the radiator. Might need a radiator that fits inside the radiator support area and hope there is still room for a pusher fan. I still don't know if they will be flipped up or down. I won't get around to this anytime soon but I wanted to pull the trigger so I could have these burning a hole in my pocket.

    There are some headers out there with smaller primaries but I am looking for all top end + I don't want to buy something and find out its not as advertised.
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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    If you can re flange it with the new flanges as close to the head / valve cover as possible !!! there has to be someone at your work who can weld stainless.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Should be able to run a Neon rad, that's what I'm gonna do in my Rampage.

    Doesn't Ed have headers? Or you don't like his?
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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Ed makes log headers out of weld-els. Certainly way better than a stock 3.0 front mani, but not equal-length headers by any means.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    I already have a turbo setup, making a second one.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    I've been sitting, waiting, wishing, I had time for my poor baby.

    I have some things worked out but only posted on facebook. Maybe next year. Stupid me, I forgot to hit the circuit breaker for my new battery so its dead (4 volts). Uhgg. I put jumper cables from it to a charged battery and am charging them together since I have learned that tends to trick auto chargers into charging dead batteries. I only drove it a few times on that Motobatt The wiring harness needs to be finished but I don't see myself touching that until a LOT of other things are done.

    Those are burned valve cylinder heads from my Spirit because I needed the Junkyard's good 190,000k mile stock cylinder heads to daily drive without machine work. That means the solid rockers and cams I installed are now in the Spirit. So the Junkyard has a completely stock motor but with the added bonus of leaking valves and Megasquirt II/Extra. I plan on racing it next year n/a if I have time and have not torn it apart.

    I took it off insurance and did not register it this year but I installed the 3" exhaust using the exhaust manifold to 3" adapter from my Spirit when it was n/a. I did this so I could drive the car without getting arrested in this cop crazy town but I don't want to mess around with converting it back to gasoline right now. I have also been tempted to rip off the Megasquirt for my daily and that would make the Duster undrivable for a long time.
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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Waiting on 3.3 springs.


    Had to go through the transmission because it has been locked up in 1st and 2nd gear from corrosion. Pinion Sleeve walked off and had to be welded in place. Bronze shift fork pads from Lengel. Bluetooth adapter for Megasquirt to android device.







    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Did you take the whole trans apart and clean out the metal?

    Losing track, which car is this for? lol.
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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    This is in the duster..

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanmanČ View Post
    Did you take the whole trans apart and clean out the metal?

    Losing track, which car is this for? lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    This is in the duster..
    Yes, and now I don't want to think about what might be happening to the transmission inside my Spirit..if that sleeve is moving. I kinda hate these cars as of just now since I didn't even think about my other car's trans.

    I finished school so this car is getting some attention again. The big question is whether I will do something that will keep it down long term or goof around with it before doing that or find a way to minimize downtime. Getting it running again would be nice but I couldn't even check the timing or bother with draining the 2.5 year old E85 when the trans was locking up an car rolling forward in neutral when I hit the starter. It has junk heads on it from my Spirit and so I don't know that anything is set correctly, plus I had a megasquirt failure that melted the coil driver with a corrupt tune (battery died while flashing tune).
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Drove the car out of its parking spot of 3 years. Vacuumed it out. Quick pressure wash. Needs a LOT of cleaning still.
    3 puck solid clutch stock flywheel is so much easier to engage then my chattering fidanza flywheel 4 puck solid daily.


    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Sweet! So, got the MS figured out then it seems...

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    It was simply corrupted firmware again. I repaired my usb ports a bit and reinstalled the driver for my serial to usb connector and it seems to stay connected without going "bum bum" and disconnecting at the slightest movement.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Cool! I'm glad to hear it's running sort of reliably. Have you tried to drive it a little more than moving it, yet to see if the tranny is working?

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Sweet. Good way to spend a fathers day...workingon the Junkyard! Happy fathers day Brent

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    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Sweet! Happy father's day, BTW!

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