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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Quote Originally Posted by Sundance 6g72 View Post
    just remember when changing firmwares you need to manually copy your settings in rather than importing them.
    Which is the reason I never want to update firmware! I find this fairly ridiculous. I also get OCD and try to change all the garbage numbers that auto populate into data fields that I don't need. I spend time trying to activate them just to remove the weird endless numbers.

    Its possibly looking like I won't get much done on any cars this year but the upside would be that they all get to sleep indoors.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    I think the later versions will import your old tune, they just caution you to double check the settings. AT least that is what I will be trying when I update from 3.2.1 to 3.3.2 (2.5 years out of date on my MS...lol)

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow24 View Post
    I think the later versions will import your old tune, they just caution you to double check the settings. AT least that is what I will be trying when I update from 3.2.1 to 3.3.2 (2.5 years out of date on my MS...lol)
    I read the same advice. I tried both ways when I updated to 3.3.1 and I think I went with the "fresh" start but I don't remember. I think as long as you copy and past the list of errors into a text document when you load a tune to your new settings and then review all of them, you should be good as long as that error report can be trusted.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    The Junkyard has been sitting inside its first garage, the garage attached to my guest house. Tucked out of the way and out of the elements. Most of the things on the left belong in the house. Some day.

    Barely made the move to its new home. I could see it was losing optical sensor synch by the way the tach kept disappearing (tach that is run by the grounding of the coil). I had swapped the distributor AND the distributor wire, stripped down the harness looking for bad connections.....and that was all before I moved the car.

    One day when working on making the main house livable, I tested the timing to make sure it was "on" after all the troubles I had in the past with trigger angle. Timing was where it should be most of the time but if I wiggled the connector for the distributor pigtail to harness (OEM connector) it losses synch and either doesn't light off or lights off at the wrong time.
    Funnest part was that with the engine off but power on, if I wiggled the connector in different directions the fuel pump would prime, injectors and coil fire. The part that made me most mad was that I couldn't find any rhyme to the reason. I don't know if its inside the connector, the pigtail, or the harness.....or interference from the alternator or something. I was just mucking about so I had to stop and get back to work on the house. No plans to get to fixing anything, I am just super happy the Junkyard and the KP61 live indoors.

    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Well if the engine wasnt spinning it shouldnt be interference from the alternator. At least you already know what system to be looking at.

    I love having a garage for the first time in my life. But, there were plenty of times in my life when i was way more productive with way worse facilities.

    Dont push the red button.You hear me?

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Junkyard has a 36-1 Nissan DIY disc installed in distributor. All Megasquirt problems resolved.

    Still has burned valve heads temp installed (for 8 years).

    Raced it earlier this month.

    15.4x@88 on 24.5 slicks. Motor is really hurt by the burned heads. Did compression test and 1 cylinder was significantly down. The valve seat leaks were previously proven by leakdown test failure.

    Now I have to fix her up before our PNW meet May 10. Putting old ported big valve heads back on with some chamber changes made. Have a new camshaft connection but didn't have time to compile the data I gathered. Will install my old big cams and some solid lifters. Only ran with a cam and megasquirt a few times and being able to make power over 6200 stock limiter was a riot.

    Should beat 15.4....which is what my a604 Spirit did with not even full basic mods in 2002.

    Need a car to take to the meet where I always took a big turbo Spirit. We are racing this year as part of our meet.

    I have all the parts to complete the original intent of this thread and then some. Decided to stop kicking the can. Another baby on way and previous 2 kids want to work on this car (which they forced onto the backburner). Only need decent n/a power for the meet.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Didn't get done for the PNW meet. Met a few fabrication slowdowns that would never have gotten done without cutting too many corners.
    3rd Baby boy out in the world now so progress is not even crawling.

    Old ported heads and cams are on the 190,000 mile shortblock now, shimmed solid. Garbage leaking heads were sent to jail.
    Among other things, redoing the fuel system and unable to yet see how bad the heads want to drop a valve.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Ah yes.....baby jail. I know that all too well lol.

    And car sitting for 8 years too.

    Brian

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman
    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    Ah yes.....baby jail. I know that all too well lol.

    And car sitting for 8 years too.

    Brian
    Working 12x7 right now and sleeping 2-4 hours to make up on the home time. Love it. I keep thinking I will get 8 things done in a day and I get 1/7th of a task done. In a full week, I accomplished spacing out my old Trick flow regulator and then finally mounting my new pre fuel rails filter. Have to install pre pump filters and make new PTFE lines. Annoying because I have parallel pumps and parallel rails. two Y blocks -6 to -8 being used. Not upgrading my 10 year old rubber return line (white with mold from 10 years ago outside in Seattle) and not replacing the pre pump -8 hoses. Also not upgrading my post fuel rail single line to regulator. Just installed new rubber.
    Today was scheduled for getting things done, and instead I competed with the family trying to make our baby laugh. 1 day off tomorrow, so I could get something done in the shop.


    The Junkyard has been moved into my shop (no lift yet but separate 200 amp service added and a 65" and a sound system). Been many years and now awesome to have a place to build. Really like it to start this month, though it may not be complete.
    Reaper1 was a big help on the couple days we thrashed thinking it would get done.

    Oh, last thing. With the new AMD processors out, I am going to build my first desktop since 2004. That is meant to support media, video production, and forums.
    Brent
    GREAT DEPRESSION RACING
    1992 Duster 3.0 The Junkyard- Now - Megasquirt II/Extra. OEM 10:1 3.0 + funny business
    - Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 Stock 3.0 Junk Motor - 516whp 519wtq 20psi 91 oct built 3.0 stock n/a computer
    1994 Spirit 3.0 - 12.3@113 15 psi - Daily Holset He341 280whp 304ft/lb @10psi
    1994 Spirit 3.0 a670 - Wife's - Disassembled
    1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE
    1994 Duster 3.0 A543
    1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TII non IC, T1 31TH
    1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver, 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts, 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag
    1998 Dodge 12v Cummins 47re 4x4 4dr longbed. No fuel plate. Mack plug, AFC & Spring mods. Boost elbow.

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    Re: 10 second 190,000 mile low boost 3.0 build

    Yeah it takes me forever to get things done so I split it up into tiny tasks. Last summer I swapped smec connectors onto the LM harness. I soldered like 5 wires a day lol.

    The new AMD stuff is great.

    Brian

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman
    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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