Upgraded intercoolers for the stock location.

[contraption22]

At SDAC, there was on display at the hospitality night tech session, an upgraded intercooler intended to fit in the stock location but with a larger and more efficient core.

I personally think this item would be perfect for a car like my Acclaim, where the the setup will be a relatively mild daily driver.

Anybody else think this would be a cool product offering?

[johnl]

Yes. There are diminishing returns when you get into relocation - not that much benefit for the hassle, the hacking, loss of AC condensor, overheating . . .

[Aries_Turbo]

Mike, i would try a thunderbird SC intercooler. they looked almost identical to the one that Ken had on display. the internal fins might be different but it still is better than a stocker.

Brian

[GLHNSLHT2]

What like a S60 i/c that no one runs and hates? The biggest problem with the stock i/c is that it sits next to the hot radiator and behind the hot a/c condensor. If I'm gonna go through the trouble of swapping i/c's it's not that much harder to go with a real front mount, especially if it were a vehicle like an AA body where there's tons of room.

[WLKivett]

I'd be interested.

Did anyone get any pics of the upgraded intercooler? What was different about it? Where the end tanks changed?

[GLHNSLHT2]

Yes. There are diminishing returns when you get into relocation - not that much benefit for the hassle, the hacking, loss of AC condensor, overheating . . .

If you lose your a/c condensor and overheating you're doing it wrong.

[xdig]

At SDAC, there was on display at the hospitality night tech session, an upgraded intercooler intended to fit in the stock location but with a larger and more efficient core.

I personally think this item would be perfect for a car like my Acclaim, where the the setup will be a relatively mild daily driver.

Anybody else think this would be a cool product offering?

Exactly what I need for the SL where I want to keep the AC and NOT cut holes in anything.

[Aries_Turbo]

I'd be interested.

Did anyone get any pics of the upgraded intercooler? What was different about it? Where the end tanks changed?

if youve seen a t-bird sc intercooler, it looked almost identical to that with T2 style endtanks. it was a little wider and a little thicker than stock but still would fit in the stock location but had the larger heat exchanger tubes like the t-bird.

Brian

[contraption22]

What like a S60 i/c that no one runs and hates? The biggest problem with the stock i/c is that it sits next to the hot radiator and behind the hot a/c condensor. If I'm gonna go through the trouble of swapping i/c's it's not that much harder to go with a real front mount, especially if it were a vehicle like an AA body where there's tons of room.

Nope, not like the S60 cooler. As stated, this would have a larger core than stock.

I doubt the radiator has much effect when the car is in motion. Race cars don't have A/C. And chances are good the A/C is turned off when you're going honda hunting.

[contraption22]

Exactly what I need for the SL where I want to keep the AC and NOT cut holes in anything.

Thats what I am thinking.

[GLHNSLHT2]

Nope, not like the S60 cooler. As stated, this would have a larger core than stock.

I doubt the radiator has much effect when the car is in motion. Race cars don't have A/C. And chances are good the A/C is turned off when you're going honda hunting.

Race cars also have front mount i/c's. Anything under 30MPH and the i/c will be sucking heat off the rad. And most people that have removed all the plastic in the car because they think it's in the way will have even more heat soak. If you really think that enlarging 2 factory holes in your radiator shrouding will lower the value of your shelby then maybe you shouldn't be modding it at all.

[contraption22]

Race cars also have front mount i/c's. Anything under 30MPH and the i/c will be sucking heat off the rad. And most people that have removed all the plastic in the car because they think it's in the way will have even more heat soak. If you really think that enlarging 2 factory holes in your radiator shrouding will lower the value of your shelby then maybe you shouldn't be modding it at all.

Ok then.

[minigts]

Anyone get a pic of it, I didn't see the IC.

[BadAssPerformance]

I might have a pic... once I un-F my PC

[turbovanman²]

Nope, not like the S60 cooler. As stated, this would have a larger core than stock.

I doubt the radiator has much effect when the car is in motion. Race cars don't have A/C. And chances are good the A/C is turned off when you're going honda hunting.

I bet it plays a huge role, the rad is shedding of 195 deg F heat all the time so thats being sucked into the IC, so your not going to the IC down below 195, the a/c condenser sheds even higher temp heat, probably 240 deg's so now you have that working against it.

As for cruising for Honda's with the a/c off, wanna bet?

[GLHNSLHT2]

+1 simon. My T2 i/c will heat soak if I cruise under 20MPH. I've got to be up over 35 with clean air in front of me before it cools off.

[chilort]

When you get near full throttle the A/C kicks off anyway. There is still latent heat there. But in terms of a strict on/off, when you punch it, it kicks off.

I run a log setup so I have intake temps. Using my OTC 4000e, the highest intake temps I've ever seen is 150* and that's a full soaked engine running around 65mph on the highway, boosting up and down in traffic in about 90* ambient with added humidity (this is Georgia after all). I have not done a ton of testing though but look forward to doing more when I get time. I wasn't running the A/C that day because I had the extender wire ran through the passenger side window.

If there were a new side mount IC I might be interested. I think an improvement in flow would be great. I doubt there will be a significant reduction in intake temperature.

I've wondered how much the battery sitting an inch behind the IC hurts its capabilities. A new side mount would not help this situation. I think Moparzrulz (sp?) has a picture of a Daytona or something where he moved the battery to the other side and have always wondered if that was done to help the side mount IC. But if you went to the trouble to move the battery you could probably more easily install a better front mount IC.

$0.02.

[turbovanman²]

When you get near full throttle the A/C kicks off anyway. There is still latent heat there. But in terms of a strict on/off, when you punch it, it kicks off.

I run a log setup so I have intake temps. Using my OTC 4000e, the highest intake temps I've ever seen is 150* and that's a full soaked engine running around 65mph on the highway, boosting up and down in traffic in about 90* ambient with added humidity (this is Georgia after all). I have not done a ton of testing though but look forward to doing more when I get time. I wasn't running the A/C that day because I had the extender wire ran through the passenger side window.

If there were a new side mount IC I might be interested. I think an improvement in flow would be great. I doubt there will be a significant reduction in intake temperature.

I've wondered how much the battery sitting an inch behind the IC hurts its capabilities. A new side mount would not help this situation. I think Moparzrulz (sp?) has a picture of a Daytona or something where he moved the battery to the other side and have always wondered if that was done to help the side mount IC. But if you went to the trouble to move the battery you could probably more easily install a better front mount IC.

$0.02.

Where is your IC located?

[GLHNSLHT2]

Are you intercooled Chilort? That sensor can take quite a bit to react. It's more like an intake manifold temp sensor than a charge air temp sensor. Out canyon carving my GLH when it was a log with a grainger I saw 300 degrees on my scanner

[cordes]

Nope, not like the S60 cooler. As stated, this would have a larger core than stock.

I doubt the radiator has much effect when the car is in motion. Race cars don't have A/C. And chances are good the A/C is turned off when you're going honda hunting.

Not only is it physically different demensionally, but the fins per inch split the difference between the Indy IC and the TII IC for a better compromise between flow and cooling.

IIRC the intake and IC we saw at the deal were the same ones which were on his car when he was making the jump to ludicrous speed in a full weight, A/C, all the bells and whistles car. Few of us have cars which can lay claim to such. Although I have never seen it, Sledgehammer is the only car I can think of which fits the bill...